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#1 beach

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:51 PM

If Mitt keeps going at his current rate, this card may never have to be pulled by the other side but do you see this being brought up any time soon?

I'm not condoning whatever strategies may come about because I honestly don't give a sh*t, Obama and Romney are both pieces of crap and I won't see much change regardless of which guy is elected...but I definitely see the Mormon issue rising back into the spotlight especially given the rate at which they're going at each other over such minor bullsh*t from speeches and such.

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#2 thatlookseasy

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:10 PM

Dont think the Obama campaign will ever go there, but I wouldnt be surprised to see some superPAC ads that "mention" it

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:15 PM

On the question of eternal damnation, evangelicals don't consider Mormons to be Christian. That alone should take Romney out of the running for President of the USA. Unless you think the current President is a Muslim or even worse, black!


Concerns among some Republicans that conservative evangelical voters would turn away from Romney because of faith differences are simply not panning out. The one note of concern for Romney's campaign is that Republicans who are uneasy with his faith are far less likely to describe their support for him as "strong," which could translate into a lower turnout.



http://www.latimes.c...0,1606972.story

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A plurality of Americans -- 44% -- can't name President Obama's religion, according to a Gallup Poll.
Among others, just 34% correctly identify Obama as a Christian, while 11% incorrectly insist he is a Muslim.

Most of those who say Obama is Muslim are Republicans.

"These data show that in terms of his religion, most Americans do not adhere to the belief that he is a Muslim," Gallup says.

"However," it adds, "the fact that almost one in five Republicans do hold this belief suggests the potential for continuing controversy on this issue in the months ahead."


http://content.usato...amas-religion/1

I would guess that any preference for the Mormon or Christian religion is not a game changer for most Independents and Democrats. The only ones that might be primarily guided by religious affiliation are the evangelicals and they think President Obama is the devil. So there really isn't any benefit to playing this card for either camp.

#4 mav1234

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:21 PM

heh, there are a ton of really weird mormon beliefs, none of which I think Romney actually believes... so meh.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:18 PM

Has Mormonism slowed Harry Reid at all?

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:49 PM

Ruling over your own planet after death is a completely ok theology as long as black liberation theology does not enter into it. I mean what kind of scumbags bring up religious beliefs as slams against the President of a nation founded on Freedom of Religion?

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:44 PM

How many conservatives bring up Romney's religion again?
When the trailer park trash bring up Obama's religion, it's a net positive for him. Tinderbox lefties talk about it for weeks.... "17 people in Allabammer think he's a Mooslim, therefore every old person/ church goer/ soccer mom does too!"

I enjoy watching lefties try to instill that same fear of the unknown (Mormon) into our less intellectually gifted trailer park denizens. It's been going on for years. How's it working?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:24 AM

How many conservatives bring up Romney's religion again?
When the trailer park trash bring up Obama's religion, it's a net positive for him. Tinderbox lefties talk about it for weeks.... "17 people in Allabammer think he's a Mooslim, therefore every old person/ church goer/ soccer mom does too!"

I enjoy watching lefties try to instill that same fear of the unknown (Mormon) into our less intellectually gifted trailer park denizens. It's been going on for years. How's it working?



Recent poll shows 17% of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim.

I haven't heard anyone speak out about Romney's Mormonism. I doubt any controversy over his religion will reach the heights Obama's religion has been at. Hell 24% of Republicans think Obama is the anti-christ.

http://www.usnews.co...uslim-socialist

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:29 AM

Recent poll shows 17% of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim.



Which is less than the number of americans that believe the government was behind 9-11, probably similar to the number of americans that believe the moon landings were fake, or that some secret cabal really runs the world. People believe some crazy things, always have and always will.

#10 googoodan

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:29 AM

Recent poll shows 17% of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim.

I haven't heard anyone speak out about Romney's Mormonism. I doubt any controversy over his religion will reach the heights Obama's religion has been at. Hell 24% of Republicans think Obama is the anti-christ.

http://www.usnews.co...uslim-socialist


Awesome you linked to a page that flat out says the information isn't valid.

Having said all that, a couple of caveats and complaints that have come out about the poll: First the questions are loaded, and second it was taken online, which is a controversial technique. (For more, see this Newsbusters piece.) So take it with whatever size piece of salt you see fit.



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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:30 AM

Which is less than the number of americans that believe the government was behind 9-11, probably similar to the number of americans that believe the moon landings were fake, or that some secret cabal really runs the world. People believe some crazy things, always have and always will.


Of course. However I doubt 25% of dems think Romney is the anti Christ or some equivalent villain.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:44 AM

Of course. However I doubt 25% of dems think Romney is the anti Christ or some equivalent villain.

A 2007 poll by public policy polling found that 27% of those who identified themselves as liberals believed that Bush had advance knowledge of 9-11 or even planned it. Thats worse than believing Obama is a secret muslim, although both are equally ridiculous. Overall, only about 14% of americans believe that Bush planned or knew of the attacks.

Both sides of the political spectrum have their lunatic fringe.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:19 AM

A 2007 poll by public policy polling found that 27% of those who identified themselves as liberals believed that Bush had advance knowledge of 9-11 or even planned it. Thats worse than believing Obama is a secret muslim, although both are equally ridiculous. Overall, only about 14% of americans believe that Bush planned or knew of the attacks.

Both sides of the political spectrum have their lunatic fringe.



That wasn't my point. I was talking in context to what was being said about religion.

I'm certainly NOT trying to say repubs are crazier than libs. If you are taking that away from what I'm saying then you're missing my point.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:26 AM

http://www.pewforum....n-Religion.aspx

more recent poll than the one Cat linked.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:38 AM

That wasn't my point. I was talking in context to what was being said about religion.

I'm certainly NOT trying to say repubs are crazier than libs. If you are taking that away from what I'm saying then you're missing my point.

Your point is that not as many people will make a big deal over Romney's actual religion as they have over Obama's supposed religion, correct? That the Mormon card will not be played.


My point is that this stuff comes from the lunatic fringe of the conservatives, just as most of the worst things said about Bush came from the lunatic fringe of liberals. If Romney were a democrat and a liberal, they would be going after his religion (albeit in a more indirect way since so many mormons are republicans).


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