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#1 ladypanther89

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:54 PM

Here is what I think. We obviously seem set at LB, even though Davis might be better than Anderson, my Stats class taught me that Davis has a larger chance to get injured if we use him more often.

Make sense so far?

So here is what I propose RR..

Use Davis in special packages as a safety/linebacker hybrid, kind of what he came in to do when he was a rookie.

Remember we basically drafted him to spy on Vick and it worked (to some extent).

There is no doubt Davis still has speed so why not use it to our full advantage. Because lets face it, Davis will not make it 16 games as a three down linebacker, call me whatever you want, a non-fan, a cynical betch, but this is what I believe and my pre-med background backs me up.

And he MUST be used on ST...remember his rookie year he ended someones career on kickoff coverage. Not that we are looking for that, but you get the point.

I just think we should prolong him as a player and get some benefit out of it...and Martin could use the rest too ; )

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:58 PM

Special Teams? NOOOO

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:59 PM

Special Teams? NOOOO


come onnn...you know we are historically bad in coverage.

And since we are going to put 35+ a game...we will be kicking off a lot.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:01 PM

Hey gais we need 2 sav his nee lets put him on spechil teems!!!1!

Brilliance.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:01 PM

i don't want TD on special teams. that sort of defeats the purpose of limiting his on-field exposure.

also i don't have the link but i remember reading an article on trending defenses and one of them was a package involving what amounts to three safeties in a nickel package where the nickelback is actually replaced by the third safety, and the archetype for someone in that position is a run-stopper who can lay wood against the run but has the speed to keep with receivers if necessary like a safety should. tweener types would work here, and i've heard nakamura's name mentioned for this role. thomas davis is a possibility as well, if our LBer depth remains solid.

intriguing possibilities all around and i will not be surprised to see plenty of exotic looks under rivera/mcdermott.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:03 PM

Hey gais we need 2 sav his nee lets put him on spechil teems!!!1!

Brilliance.


kickoff coverage is running straight down the field. With his speed he will barely have to cut at all...would you prefer him on the bench?

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

Here is what I think. We obviously seem set at LB, even though Davis might be better than Anderson, my Stats class taught me that Davis has a larger chance to get injured if we use him more often.

Make sense so far?

So here is what I propose RR..

Use Davis in special packages as a safety/linebacker hybrid, kind of what he came in to do when he was a rookie.

Remember we basically drafted him to spy on Vick and it worked (to some extent).

There is no doubt Davis still has speed so why not use it to our full advantage. Because lets face it, Davis will not make it 16 games as a three down linebacker, call me whatever you want, a non-fan, a cynical betch, but this is what I believe and my pre-med background backs me up.

And he MUST be used on ST...remember his rookie year he ended someones career on kickoff coverage. Not that we are looking for that, but you get the point.

I just think we should prolong him as a player and get some benefit out of it...and Martin could use the rest too ; )


Wow so even when your stat class teaches you that if we use Davis more often, the higher the chance of him getting injure, and you want him to play ST? I guess

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

kickoff coverage is running straight down the field. With his speed he will barely have to cut at all...would you prefer him on the bench?


there are still moves required in pursuit that will exact torsion on the joint. in theory he would only run straight but it's not a safe bet.

the front office has made enough roster moves in the ST phase that if we have to resort to plugging in thomas davis we are probably screwed no matter what we do.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

kickoff coverage is running straight down the field. With his speed he will barely have to cut at all...would you prefer him on the bench?

Specials Teams is one of the most violent things that occurs on the field. You do realize this, yes?

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:07 PM

Specials Teams is one of the most violent things that occurs on the field. You do realize this, yes?



Of course I do! Which is why I am saying it should be Davis on it; not Armanti Edwards.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:10 PM

come onnn...you know we are historically bad in coverage.

And since we are going to put 35+ a game...we will be kicking off a lot.

Yeah, but that's just asking for him to get hurt again. He does not have the same body or quickness that he did his rookie year.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:10 PM

i think there actually has been some discussion about him playing some special teams, though i doubt it's very much. as i've said before, tho, i don't expect him to be on the field for more than 20-25 snaps per game. one or two downs a series is about it and that's all it should be...just situationally. keeps his legs fresher and lessens exposure to injury.

also, we've added enough ST studs this offseason who are solid in coverage and we also shouldn't have half of the ST guys we depend on have to quit playing on STs because they are getting promoted to starter b/c of injury to another guy. davis just won't be all that needed on STs.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

Wow so even when your stat class teaches you that if we use Davis more often, the higher the chance of him getting injure, and you want him to play ST? I guess



It makes sense because as a linebacker he has a much higher chance of tearing his knee up again, whereas on ST he still has a chance but a lower chance.

I should have said this before but I deff think we should have cut him this offseason. Hurney has a problem of holding on to players too long (Dan Morgan). I thought we would stop when Fox left but guess not.

So back to out argument....Would I rather have him play 16 games at ST or 4 games at LB...you know my answer.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

Of course I do! Which is why I am saying it should be Davis on it; not Armanti Edwards.


That's why we signed Onatolu, nakamura, and Reggie Smith. Plus we have guy like Capt

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:13 PM

Common sense also comes into play a little bit.

Giving Davis 60 more yards to run down the field in special teams increases the chance that he will blow out his ACL again.



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