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#1 Zod

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:42 AM

The defensive and offensive lines are not going at it 100%.

Even in the mini scrimmages, they are not giving full effort. So any conclusions you think you have drawn on their performances are incomplete.

So before you start having an opinion either way of how our lines are doing, you may want to take a deep breath and wait until the preseason.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:44 AM

So that people can say in the preseason that it's only preseason and you should wait until 8 weeks into the regular season?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:45 AM

So that people can say in the preseason that it's only preseason and you should wait until 8 weeks into the regular season?

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#4 Zod

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:57 AM

So that people can say in the preseason that it's only preseason and you should wait until 8 weeks into the regular season?



Well, in a way they are right in regards to the outcome of the game.

But as far as individual assessment of the offensive and defensive line players, preseason is where its at.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:58 AM

Bummer.....I know Al Wallace called out Hardy yesterday.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:00 AM

Well, in a way they are right in regards to the outcome of the game.

But as far as individual assessment of the offensive and defensive line players, preseason is where its at.


I agree completely.

My comment was more a jab at those who will ignore every valid criticism in the preseason because it's easier to say it's preseason and pretend everything's fine.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:03 AM

I agree completely.

My comment was more a jab at those who will ignore every valid criticism in the preseason because it's easier to say it's preseason and pretend everything's fine.


Offense struggled in the preseason last year....so argued the emphasis was on situational and specifics and not just trying to simply score.

Turned out to be accurate as the offense overall had no issues when the season started

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:19 AM

Offense struggled in the preseason last year....so argued the emphasis was on situational and specifics and not just trying to simply score.

Turned out to be accurate as the offense overall had no issues when the season started


Cam Newton's premiere was an anomaly.

Panthers fans were pretending when 2009 started that it's normal for defensive players not to tackle in the preseason.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:23 AM

I agree, I tend to wait for the matchups in preseason because you get to see how well a person does against another opponent. And if they can beat them head to head.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:24 AM

Bummer.....I know Al Wallace called out Hardy yesterday.


What did he say?

IMHO if Hardy has another lackluster season TY we should probably start looking elsewhere.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:30 AM

It is what it is. :(

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:44 AM

i take training camp/practices with a grain of salt...but preseason overall gives a good indicator of things to come.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:16 AM

i take training camp/practices with a grain of salt...but preseason overall gives a good indicator of things to come.

unless you're talking about the score board.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:19 AM

So before you start having an opinion either way of how our lines are doing, you may want to take a deep breath and wait until the preseason.


Thank you but I, prefer to wallow in ignorance, hastily develop conclusions and make snap judgements based on biased, and limited information.

Signed - Obtuse Football Fan and Proud Registered Voter

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:36 AM

I think you have to separate the guys who aren't going 100% and may not even do so in the preseason because they are established veterans like Gross and Kalil versus guys who are fighting tooth and nail for a roster spot. Guys who may not even make it through the preseason can't wait until the season starts to start showing their ability.