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GOP insider: Religion destroyed my party

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Democratic voters have their issues as well, but "worshiping government" is not one of them. At least with government we have a shot at electing people that will screw us over. Companies - not so much.

I see this last statement a bit differently, though I would submit that (D) and ® simply answer to a different bossman.

With government, you rarely see a program go away, a tax go away, or put in their terms a "revenue stream" disappear.

Once enacted, they are all loathe to take away someone's bacon.

Also, government tends to grow, anr rarely if ever gets smaller, something ® voters like to TALK about but seem blind to the fact that their party often grows government bigger than the (D).

I see it like this...a company can really suck and fail. It then goes away. Well, maybe it gets bought up, refurbished, and the bigwigs golden parachute away.

The politicians can be voted out of office, but the policies don't really ever go away.

So pick your poison.

Honestly, bad governments scare me just a little bit more than big business....but it seems more and more like they are one in the same these days.

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Really? You are fooling yourself.

I challenge you to walk into any one of the four billion churches in the state of north carolina and ask the occupants which candidate they will be casting their ballots for.

I'd guess the results would be about 98% for Romney.

They see it as their DUTY, they don't even consider policy.

How much you willing to bet? That would be easy money for me, if you are including all churches in the state.

I would be willing to bet that the voting percentages for Romney in white evangelical churches would be lower than those voting for Obama (or any other Democrat) in black churches.

Evangelicals make up a significant portion of the republican vote, but they are not a majority. They have a lot of influence in the primary, less so in the general election because the candidates to an extent take their vote for granted, much as democrats do the black vote. But Mccain was not well liked by the evangelicals. Their favorite in the 2008 election was Huckabee, and he lost. And Romney was not the favorite of the evangelicals in 2012 (their votes were more spread out among the other candidates) but Romney still won the nomination. That is why their vote matters more in the primaries than in the general election. Romney had to win their favor, but since he is now the presumptative nominee, getting that vote is not quite as important (although it is still somewhat important).

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You are talking about religious people voting in the primaries.

I know they didn't like Romney, seems no one did, yet somehow he is the guy.

Truth is though, given the choice between D Jesus fuging Christ Himself & R Adolf Hitler... the people that attend a christian church every Sunday will almost ALWAYS vote R

They will vote R or they will stay home.

Oh wait, I must be delusional... There is no connection between religion and the republican party.

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Jesus definitely would've voted democrat, too.

I know my friend Haysoos does

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Jesus definitely would've voted democrat, too.

He'd of had to, unless he became a citizen, and voted legally.

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I'd like to see some statistics on the church-goer vote, personally. Republicans definitely carry fundamentalists, but I'm willing to bet mainstream Christians are pretty evenly divided between the two parties.

Jesus definitely would've voted democrat, too.

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http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1112/religion-vote-2008-election

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so depending on how you define mainstream Christians, a decent chunk are carried by dems pretty regularly, I guess.

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black protestants voted for Obama because he's black and they're racist.

black protestants voted for Kerry also because they're racist but lemme get back to you on specifics.

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Frequency of church attendance is a good indicator of party affiliation.

Not sure why they included seculars (These are people without a religious affiliation and who gave us no indication that they had any kind of religious belief or behavior) in a graph entitled "Religious Groups".

Note: Additional graphs referencing gay marriage and abortion referendums/initiatives in several states are discussed later in the article.

http://pewresearch.o...e-2008-election

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black protestants voted for Obama because he's black and they're racist.

black protestants voted for Kerry also because they're racist but lemme get back to you on specifics.

no you see black people are just enslaved by the democratic party*, presumably because they're too dumb to realize it or too lazy to care. and have i told you about how the republicans are the real party for civil rights? i mean lincoln was a republican, come on

*this is a real thing that has been said by real posters here

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Responding to GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain's denial of his party's history with blacks, CNN analyst Roland S. Martin writes a blog entry about African Americans migrating away from the Republican Party. While many became Republican out of affection for President Abraham Lincoln after the Emancipation Proclamation, they dashed away in droves in 1964 after the party nominated for president Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater, who took a hard stand against the Civil Rights Act.

You would think that a black man born and raised in Georgia, who was a teenager during the civil rights movement, would understand the transition of African-Americans from voting overwhelmingly Republican to strongly supporting the Democratic Party.

But the GOP presidential candidate clearly didn't have the common sense that he often speaks of having when he went on CNN's "The Situation Room" and accused many African-Americans of being brainwashed to vote Democratic.

"Many African-Americans have been brainwashed into not being open-minded, not even considering a conservative point of view," Cain said. "I have received some of that same vitriol simply because I am running for the Republican nomination as a conservative.

"So it's just brainwashing and people not being open-minded, pure and simple." ...

It's not the first time I've heard someone question the reasons for blacks' allegiance to the Democratic Party, but history has to be taken into account.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/01/opinion/martin-cain-brainwashed/index.html?iref=allsearch

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