Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

mav1234

How many of you are actually undecided?

88 posts in this topic

i think it would be great if we could get all the folks who are already locked in to their guy and get them on camera. ask them very relevant questions about policies and voting records etc and promises made/kept and overall track record.

no google to use. no smart phone to look up stuff. just you and the camera and your knowledge of the person you are voting for. the total exposure to being ill informed and just voting the party line would be startling.

and this goes for EITHER side.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've tried to like Romney. I can't do it. Voting for Johnson is like not voting at all. Obama isn't nearly as bad as we make him out to be, but a second term where he's not constantly pandering has the makings of a disaster.

I might just stick to the local state and congressional elections. I haven't voted for pres since 2000.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Obama seems to be pushing towards gun control lately, while Romney is completely inept when it comes to foreign affairs & taxes. Conflicting interests are keeping me on the fence for right now.

Why can't there be a viable third option?

Romney has been stricter on gun control than Obama. But that won't stop people from convincing themselves Obama is going to take their gun.

In 1994 Romney had supported firearms-control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association: the so-called Brady Bill, which restricted the sale of handguns, and the assault weapons ban. During the 1994 senatorial campaign he had taunted: "That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA." He reinforced his support for these measures when he ran for governor in 2002

http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

good find rodeo. this tells me romney has balls and isn't afraid to look bad or do unpopular things. thats what leaders do.

*leans more towards great hair guy*

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On on Carolina Huddle does Gary Johnson carry a majority.

Quick example of how CH has no resemblence to national opinions or realism.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

good find rodeo. this tells me romney has balls and isn't afraid to look bad or do unpopular things. thats what leaders do.

*leans more towards great hair guy*

He changed his mind when it became unpopular and declared himself a lifetime NRA member.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Romney has been stricter on gun control than Obama. But that won't stop people from convincing themselves Obama is going to take their gun.

In 1994 Romney had supported firearms-control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association: the so-called Brady Bill, which restricted the sale of handguns, and the assault weapons ban. During the 1994 senatorial campaign he had taunted: "That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA." He reinforced his support for these measures when he ran for governor in 2002

http://www.issues200...Gun_Control.htm

I already know this, but Romney's afraid of his own base. There's literally 0% chance he'd enact any kind of large scale gun control if elected.

I never thought Obama would try to push for any gun laws, but with all of these shootings going on lately, the rhetoric he's using suggests that he is.

Confusing baseless fears that a Democratic president always wants to take away your weapons & actual rhetoric he's using is just stupid. Don't assume things.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Brady Campaign for Gun Control- you'll remember James Brady as Reagan's press secretary who took a bullet in the head during an assasination attempt- has consistently given Obama an "F" grade when it comes to any gun control laws... yet folks are scared poopless he's going to do exactly what Michele Bachmann said, "The National Guard will go door-to-door to confiscate weapons..."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Once again, people can't separate the past from current trending & rhetoric.

If I was afraid he was going to enact any gun confiscation laws, I wouldn't have voted for him in 08.

His base is pushing him more & more, especially after this latest shooting. He blames lobbying for not being able to push through even more reform.

What's with people jumping to the most extreme on here?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey, if anyone is benefiting from all this gun violence its the gun manufacturers. Sales have been way up after the attacks, and the irrational fear that Obama is going to single handedly ban all guns in America has been a huge boon to gun sales.

They are certainly benefiting more than liberals who could hypothetically at some point in the future pass laws on gun restrictions

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites