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How big is the difference between KR and PR?

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I would think it would depend on other roster needs. We just happen to have 2 WR doing returns. Often times you see a defensive back do punt return duties for a number of reasons (Hester from Chi or Deion Sanders) for instance. 1. In case of a fake punt you have a pass defender in there. 2 they usually have good hands ( even better than a WR). 3. They move laterally better. 4. They are in many ways less fragile than a tall lanky WR. Joe Adams has more of a DB build anyway, so I think he has an advantage over Edwards.

People already said "shifty" to describe the athleticism of a punt returner. For a kickoff returner I would think you would want more of a pure sprinter (a guy like Michael Bates, for those who remember).

Unfortunately we have neither a Deion Sanders nor a Michael Bates.

That said, I'm looking forward to see how well Hurney and Rivera addressed this in the off season. I expect Adams to be good and much better coverage and tackling.

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It simple terms ....you need bigger balls and PR is harder.

You don't have to worry about getting blown up fielding a KO....

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In 2008, Mark Jones handled both KR and PR for the Panthers and was pretty effective.

Since the NFL changed the kickoff rules, I really don't think the KR duties are as important as they once were. Seems like we could stick just about anybody in the endzone to take a knee and start at the 20.

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It simple terms ....you need bigger balls and PR is harder.

You don't have to worry about getting blown up fielding a KO....

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner!

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In 2008, Mark Jones handled both KR and PR for the Panthers and was pretty effective.

Since the NFL changed the kickoff rules, I really don't think the KR duties are as important as they once were. Seems like we could stick just about anybody in the endzone to take a knee and start at the 20.

have to remember that also after '08 the made the wedge illegal so that made a few returners obsolete. to a point they all have to be shifty and able to see holes. when the wedge was allowed all they had to do was be tough and be able to stay behind the wedge. mark jones was one of those who became obsolete.

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have to remember that also after '08 the made the wedge illegal so that made a few returners obsolete. to a point they all have to be shifty and able to see holes. when the wedge was allowed all they had to do was be tough and be able to stay behind the wedge. mark jones was one of those who became obsolete.

Yep. Jones was a smart, safe, yet unspectacular runner. if you set him up, he would make the run.....if he had top tier talent he would have had several TDs that season. Jones couldn't make moves and lacked breakaway speed. Now you just need a playmakerwho can create on his own and breakaway when given a window.

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Often times you see a defensive back do punt return duties for a number of reasons (Hester from Chi or Deion Sanders) for instance.

Hester has never been a DB...also, another advantage of using a db for returning would be that they get a chance to rest before getting on the field again while some WR's are out on the field immediately playing after returning.

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There are some differences. As others have said, punt returners need to be quicker, this is why punt returners are almost always small WRs or DBs. You're more likely to see a running back or taller receiver on kick returns, where they can get up some speed and look for a hole. Punts are also harder to catch, because hey're coming almost straight down, and if you bobble a punt it's much more likely to be a turnover than if you bobble a kickoff. It's hard to make someone into a punt returner if they don't have experience with it, there's a certain feel for the game you have to have, sense where people are around you, how the blocks are set up, etc. and you have to process all that while catching the punt. It's a little easier to train a guy to return kicks, because they have time to decide where they're gonna go after they catch the ball.

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hope adams can be both

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Hester is both a PR/KR.

So was our Smitty when we drafted him.

If Adams can do both job, let him take care of both.

Pilares is aite, I think he's a bit overrated as a PR by our fans after that Detriot game. Haven't seen much from him since last season but if he's nothing serious on offense, there's no point on keeping Pilares just for returning kicks unless he's a great returner.

I just hope that RR will give Adams the chance from day one to sparks his magic imstead of having him behind Pilares or AE returning kicks or punts bc he's a rook.

Why? Bc remember rookies who returned balls for TD like our Smitty and Cobb last year in their first game.

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Hester has never been a DB...also, another advantage of using a db for returning would be that they get a chance to rest before getting on the field again while some WR's are out on the field immediately playing after returning.

Wrong as hell, he was drafted as a DB out of Miami, then converted to a WR. Which is why he's able to wear the #23 which is ineligible for WR's.

http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/nfl_draft_prospect/us/354?id=354

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=2&c=466053&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fprofootball.scout.com%2f2%2f466053.html

http://www.nfldraft101.com/draft/profiles/player/6057/media.jsp

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I wish Godell will force Hester to change his number!!!!

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