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So if Micheal Jordan told you that the Bobcats were a finely run team, you would be a good little sheep?

I actually would keep my mouth shut until I see how his strategy plays out. Meanwhile I would decide if I want to be a fan or not by voting one way or the other with my money buying tickets and going to games. What I wouldn't do is go on to the Bobcat forum here or elsewhere and bitch about everything and everyone every chance I got.

But that is just me.......................................

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I actually would keep my mouth shut until I see how his strategy plays out. Meanwhile I would decide if I want to be a fan or not by voting one way or the other with my money buying tickets and going to games. What I wouldn't do is go on to the Bobcat forum here or elsewhere and bitch about everything and everyone every chance I got.

But that is just me.......................................

I thought you would just defer. His stategy played out...poorly. You enjoy watching the games even though they lose.

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I actually would keep my mouth shut until I see how his strategy plays out. Meanwhile I would decide if I want to be a fan or not by voting one way or the other with my money buying tickets and going to games. What I wouldn't do is go on to the Bobcat forum here or elsewhere and bitch about everything and everyone every chance I got.

But that is just me.......................................

Yeah okay, and it plays itself out....you then can comment despite not being a NBA GM?

Lion fans couldn't comment on Millen until he was fired? Raider fans couldn't comment on Al Davis' later years until he died?

That is just silly....You pretty consistently tow the line of anything Carolina does is correct and no one has the right to question a front office move or coaching decision. There is no way to apply that logic in the real world.

It is just selective bitching about certain aspects of things. You are the guy who said if Fox says Jake gives us the best chance to win everyone is a fool for doubting the man.

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I thought you would just defer. His stategy played out...poorly. You enjoy watching the games even though they lose.

His strategy involved building through the draft and developing his young guys. You won't know how it plays out for a year or two at the earliest. And no one enjoys losing but sometimes that is what happens while you are building. Do I like what he did dumping all the vets?? Of course not. But I wouldn't be ignorant enough to assume I know more than him or have any idea how to do it better.

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Yeah okay, and it plays itself out....you then can comment despite not being a NBA GM?

Lion fans couldn't comment on Millen until he was fired? Raider fans couldn't comment on Al Davis' later years until he died?

That is just silly....You pretty consistently tow the line of anything Carolina does is correct and no one has the right to question a front office move or coaching decision. There is no way to apply that logic in the real world.

It is just selective bitching about certain aspects of things. You are the guy who said if Fox says Jake gives us the best chance to win everyone is a fool for doubting the man.

That is kitchen sinking, throwing anything and everything against the wall hoping something sticks. This is not about Detroit or the Raiders nor are our situations remotely similar. And again you have every right to say what you want and criticize anyone and anybody. How many times do I have to say it???

I don't always agree with Hurney I just don't think I need to bitch about it all the time. Do I wish we had Peppers on one side and Allen on the other? Who wouldn't?? Do I wish we had Revis on the other side of Gamble?? Of course......

But I have decided that I am going to see what happens with who we have and trust the coaches to develop our guys. Thats just me, though, feel free to bitch.

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His strategy involved building through the draft and developing his young guys. You won't know how it plays out for a year or two at the earliest. And no one enjoys losing but sometimes that is what happens while you are building. Do I like what he did dumping all the vets?? Of course not. But I wouldn't be ignorant enough to assume I know more than him or have any idea how to do it better.

for the record, P55 was one of the main voices speaking out against all fans who tried to back JR's decision to handle 2010 as we all witnessed.. and yes, I thought there was potential with Matt Moore, our run game and a defense that held itself together long enough to be competitive...

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That is kitchen sinking, throwing anything and everything against the wall hoping something sticks. This is not about Detroit or the Raiders nor are our situations remotely similar. And again you have every right to say what you want and criticize anyone and anybody. How many times do I have to say it???

I don't always agree with Hurney I just don't think I need to bitch about it all the time. Do I wish we had Peppers on one side and Allen on the other? Who wouldn't?? Do I wish we had Revis on the other side of Gamble?? Of course......

But I have decided that I am going to see what happens with who we have and trust the coaches to develop our guys. Thats just me, though, feel free to bitch.

No it isn't. Those are examples of other GMs....they just weren't the GM of your team. Either a fan can or can't be critical of a GM. Team should have no impact. You were the one just lecturing you needed to have NFL front office experience to dare question what a team is doing....

This is a message board for fans of a professional sports team. This is the IDEAL place for people to pointlessly bitch about something they have no control over.

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for the record, P55 was one of the main voices speaking out against all fans who tried to back JR's decision to handle 2010 as we all witnessed.. and yes, I thought there was potential with Matt Moore, our run game and a defense that held itself together long enough to be competitive...

I see these situations as totally different with different issues and motives. As you noted I was totally against the panthers dumping all the veterans and going on the cheap in 2010. I felt that it would hurt the leadership of the team and be a disaster. My complaint against Richardson was that it wasn't necessary and done totally to dump salary and save money in the short term. It was done for an extended lockout which never happened so it decimated the team for no reason. And caused up to pay 10s of millions more in 2011 to entice players to stay after a 2-14 disaster.That is so different from the philosophy of building long term through the draft and actually against Richardson's philosophy up until then. So it wasn't bitching about our general philosophy or moves over the past several years but a specific complaint about how we handled that year which hindsight proves I was totally right about. Note that I am still not on board with the FO on all their decisions I don't bitch constantly either.

The difference between what the Panthers did versus the Bobcats in dumping salary was that the Panthers have never been hurting for money and Saturday night marked the 94th sellout in a row. Jordan is struggling to keep things afloat and is in financial trouble from what I can tell. So that is why I wouldn't assume to know how to fix it or do it better And don't see my bitching about 2010 with the Panthers as analogous with people who bitch about the Bobcats. But that is me..................

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No it isn't. Those are examples of other GMs....they just weren't the GM of your team. Either a fan can or can't be critical of a GM. Team should have no impact. You were the one just lecturing you needed to have NFL front office experience to dare question what a team is doing....

This is a message board for fans of a professional sports team. This is the IDEAL place for people to pointlessly bitch about something they have no control over.

I didn't say you don't have a right to criticize the team or the GM. I just said you were uniformed and didn't have a clue what you are talking about. I don't see how you can't see they are different. Of course a message board is the perfect place to bitch. It still doesn't mean it is justified or warranted. You seem to confuse having the ability to do something with the concept of being justified or correct in your analysis.

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I didn't say you don't have a right to criticize the team or the GM. I just said you were uniformed and didn't have a clue what you are talking about. I don't see how you can't see they are different. Of course a message board is the perfect place to bitch. It still doesn't mean it is justified or warranted. You seem to confuse having the ability to do something with the concept of being justified or correct in your analysis.

Maybe you should go back and read your post....you clearly pulled the "are you a GM card".

There are many quotes reporters have gotten out of other front offices that have questioned Hurney magic....

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