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Jonathan Stewart Signs Five Year (36.5 Million) Contract Extension


Best Answer Kurb, 11 August 2012 - 05:38 PM

I would say I am shocked so many of you fail to see the implications of this waste of money in RunningBacks, then I remember Im the local badguy lately for saying we spend too much on runningbacks and you are all incredible homers. Go to the full post


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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:26 PM

Not a lot of angles you can view this where spending 90 million on the running game in 2012 doesn't look absurd.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:29 PM

90 mill in one season? has remedial math fled our schools as well as simple english?

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:30 PM

You can't blame our lack of winning on our run game over the past few years. Particularly before last year, that is the only part of our offense that has worked. And the money we have spent on the running game has not stopped us from spending on other parts of the team. What we spent on Johnson and Gamble is more than we spent on Double Trouble, Cam, and Tolbert.


Can certainly blame it on a crappy passing game....

Over investing in RBs has limited this team. It isn't the sole reason we havent addressed other spots....but it has been one of the reasons.

You are suppose to pay DEs and CBs in a passing league. We just pay on the high end...which is ANOTHER reason we have limitations. No singular move prevents us from doing things....big picture, several things do.

In a passing league, we should of never been in this postion to begin with. We had an emerging 1st round RB prior to the 08 draft and yet we acted like the cupboard was bare.

Carolina stands alone in this era with what they have done in the backfield. No other team has drafted 2 1st round RBs in 3 yrs and no team
Is paying 2 featured RB money...... Maybe if our record was better people could pimp this as smart

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:38 PM

And the concept of 90 million dollars being a significant investment even spread out a few years flies right over twylyght's head

God forbid his dumb, glazed over eyes take a view from a higher vantage point.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:43 PM

Why do people get offended by other peoples viewpoints on the team? Then they say "get over it". Well guess what you can do about my viewpoint,

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:52 PM

Whether our opinions are right or wrong, none of it is going to change just because we say so.

Please continue though.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:54 PM

you've harped on it long enough. accept it or move on


Stewart was just given his deal. So what I was worried would happen.....just happened yesterday. Forgive me.

I mean heaven forbid it gets brought up again as Cam dominates on the ground again all year long....and we are paying that absurd money for the type production other teams modestly pay for

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:20 PM

last time i checked we arent up against the cap, and any free agent we bring in at this point will likely be for the vet minimum.

dont really get the crying over $$

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:26 PM

last time i checked we arent up against the cap, and any free agent we bring in at this point will likely be for the vet minimum.

dont really get the crying over $$


How about getting....

We aren't even close to finding someone to groom to replace Smitty, still don't have a sure #2 or 3 WR. Have one defensive lineman and one defensive back......in a passing league. We simply arent showing a commitment to catchup with league rules and how they will continue to slant.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

Can certainly blame it on a crappy passing game....

Over investing in RBs has limited this team. It isn't the sole reason we havent addressed other spots....but it has been one of the reasons.

You are suppose to pay DEs and CBs in a passing league. We just pay on the high end...which is ANOTHER reason we have limitations. No singular move prevents us from doing things....big picture, several things do.

In a passing league, we should of never been in this postion to begin with. We had an emerging 1st round RB prior to the 08 draft and yet we acted like the cupboard was bare.

Carolina stands alone in this era with what they have done in the backfield. No other team has drafted 2 1st round RBs in 3 yrs and no team
Is paying 2 featured RB money...... Maybe if our record was better people could pimp this as smart


First of all people act like we have been paying a ton for running backs for 2009 and 2010 when our team was poor and that we neglected other positions and that just isn't true. We paid Wiliams at the end of 2010 so the 2009 and 2010 seasons have nothing to do with overpaying for running backs. The only season that remotely could be considered is 2011 and even then we didn't pay more than 10 million for double trouble which is not much more than some teams paid for one back. And really from a salary cap point of view we are spending 12 million on Williams, Stewart and Tolbert combined in 2012. It isn't until 2013 that we are even paying a premium for our running backs so the whole it has kept our team back is ridiculous. If you are talking actually salaries it is even less.

The three of them cost less than 10% of our cap. In fact in 2012, the cost of Charles Johnson alone which is 11,000,000 is about the same as all three combined. For that matter Jordan Gross cost us 11,500,000 this season. Each of them cost us almost 10% of the cap themselves.

Your whole premise is flawed with poor logic. First of all Wiliams never showed much at all up until 2008 so drafting Stewart wasn't a waste at all. Many people would suggest that drafting Stewart was just the fire Williams needed under his butt to start producing. Secondly, until 2013 we aren't paying 2 running backs featured money and there is significant thought that WIlliams will never see the last 2 years of his contract. None of his money is guaranteed after 2012 and his cap hit if done as a June 1 cut won't be bad after 2013. So we might end up paying big bucks to the both of them for 1 year.

But this whole paying 90 millions for 2 backs is surely not going to happen unless they both produce at a very high level. So please give it a rest and let it play out. This year all of our backs are making the same as Adrian Peterson is making by himself. Lets see what happens next year before bitching for another year like you did with Williams about how that would stop up signing Stewart. You were the main one I was talking about with your constant bitching and your still at it. You have been wrong all along but that hardly deters you. Why not stop now while you are behind.


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