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#31 Gabeking

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 08:16 PM

Hey Hurney, CB and DT were our 2 biggest weaknesses last season. What are you going to do about it this offseason?..

Hurney: "Absolutely nothing. We are fine there."

Thanks d**kweed.

When you don't address your weaknesses, they don't magically get better the next season.


Hate hurney all you want but id take a once in a generation linebacker in kuechly as well as potentially shoring up the LG position long term as well in the first two rounds and save pass rush and CB/DT for next year over just patching up the problems with question marks like coples and Irvin this year all day every day honestly... I think hurney knows about the pass rush problems more than anybody based on his recent comments and we'll probably go all out in the draft for pass rush next year, but if we ignore it again then yes, we should call for hurney's head, but I doubt he will. just my two cents IMO

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 09:39 PM

I'm not sure if people realize this but Tolbert was opened when Cam threw a perfect pass to him that he tried to catch with one hand and dropped. If Tolbert didn't drop the pass he would've gotten the first, and more.

Why throw to your check down when your first read was opened? Yeah two guys followed Tolbert but he was still wide opened.

No different than Godfrey and Luke following Daniels, with him still being wide ass opened.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 09:56 PM

But Ron Edwards is healthy. Why aren't all our problems magically fixed. I don't understand. I was told this would solve everything.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:20 PM

Tutu (Naanee 2012) and Norwood needs to go.
I dont wanna see Cam having to throw to Tutu to win a game on a crucial last play this year, just bc "he knows the offense".

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:23 PM

But Ron Edwards is healthy. Why aren't all our problems magically fixed. I don't understand. I was told this would solve everything.


LOL!!! bc Edwards cant play both DT spot, LE, No.2 CB and both Safety spot at one time.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:30 PM

Hate hurney all you want but id take a once in a generation linebacker in kuechly as well as potentially shoring up the LG position long term as well in the first two rounds and save pass rush and CB/DT for next year over just patching up the problems with question marks like coples and Irvin this year all day every day honestly... I think hurney knows about the pass rush problems more than anybody based on his recent comments and we'll probably go all out in the draft for pass rush next year, but if we ignore it again then yes, we should call for hurney's head, but I doubt he will. just my two cents IMO


I heard this before. Seems close to something I've been hearing the past 5 years.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:32 PM

We are like the wife who can't leave her abusive husband.

Jimmy! I swear, the next time you beat me, I will leave you!! Next time is the time, I'm serious!

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 11:27 PM

We are like the wife who can't leave her abusive husband.

Jimmy! I swear, the next time you beat me, I will leave you!! Next time is the time, I'm serious!


I would've agreed with you when we had John fox and our QB by committee system but this is only our second year seoerated from 2-14 so I mean people need to give this whole system a chance that's all... Only person I am not happy with as if now is McDermott honestly but it's only one game of preseason so it's still up in the air with him.. But ppl need to calm down and stop calling for everyone's head Just look at Ryan leaf's first preseason game stats and youll see how meaningless this all is.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 11:50 PM

I've knew Campbell would be a great pickup especially if he got some actual coaching... I really hope he supplants Bell as the starter, I'd feel a lot more comfortable.

As far as Cam, I'm not worried at all. I don't think he was going through his reads purposely for whatever reason. In the case of Tolbert, and being that it's preseason, he may have been trying to get him a touch to give him a chance to show out. It's preseason, it doesn't matter.

And the defense... We'll see. I really think we'll be fine with Edwards and Kearse in there at DT, but Hardy HAS to show out this year in the pass rush...

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 01:12 AM

1-4 for 4 yards

Drew Brees Game 2

2-6 16 yards

Cam Newton Game 1

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 01:50 AM

Attempting to draw conclusions about defensive schemes after one preseason game seems to be a bit hasty doesn't it? We won't know until after 3-4 healthy, regular-season games with this defense just how McDermott's defense will really pan out.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 05:28 AM

Agree with nearly everything in the article. Especially the idea that McDermott might not be getting the job done. These are NFL players and he has had a good long time to get this pass rush up and running and I didn't see much of anything vs. Texans. Thinking about blitzing...wasn't Shaub's INT forced by a corner blitz from Munnerlyn and good pass rush from CJ? That's the way it looked in replay. So...was that the only blitz we ran? I don't remember. If so..it may be part of a blitz package that could be successful. I don't think we have the DL or DBs to commit entirely to an aggressive scheme. And when the offense doesn't put points on the board, we lose def. momentum in a hurry. Will the players and coaches look at the film and make adjustments or will they assume things will turn around? We gotta be better than this.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 06:21 AM

Hate hurney all you want but id take a once in a generation linebacker in kuechly as well as potentially shoring up the LG position long term as well in the first two rounds and save pass rush and CB/DT for next year over just patching up the problems with question marks like coples and Irvin this year all day every day honestly... I think hurney knows about the pass rush problems more than anybody based on his recent comments and we'll probably go all out in the draft for pass rush next year, but if we ignore it again then yes, we should call for hurney's head, but I doubt he will. just my two cents IMO


Not only that but two of our starting linebackeers from last season were and still are question marks - it would have been dumb to not take Kuechly.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 06:23 AM

You guys realise that the draft isn't the only way to improve a team right?

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 06:31 AM

I would've agreed with you when we had John fox and our QB by committee system but this is only our second year seoerated from 2-14 so I mean people need to give this whole system a chance that's all... Only person I am not happy with as if now is McDermott honestly but it's only one game of preseason so it's still up in the air with him.. But ppl need to calm down and stop calling for everyone's head Just look at Ryan leaf's first preseason game stats and youll see how meaningless this all is.


Scheme has nothing to do with individual sucky performances. Your DTs still can't penetrate the Oline and still can't contain the run. Your CBs and S's still can't cover. That has nothing to do with "the system".


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