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Pete Prisco weighs in on Stews signing.

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What they are doing is going with faster quicker guys who may be good getting penetration but can't stop a big physical offensive line with road graders like we have. As the game wears on it will be more obvious.

It is still out smarting ourselves. NFL is making it easier and easier to pass. Nothing suggests Ds are going to get rules back to aid them.

they are adding better athletes at DT, yes. the space cloggers are going away....but there are still monsters on the DLs.

And the road grading OL doesnt fair as well in pass protection.....so that still leaves you in a passing league protecting your QB with an OL emphazing the run.

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Yasinkas weighs in on this, though more Tolbert stuff, I think it is relevant here:

Only issue with Pats article is the Panthers weren't frequently behind IMO. They frequently blew leads.

It also implies Cam being the hot hand was a flukey thing. That has been Cam's entire football career. Offense works when it all goes through Newton. He isn't a guy who can come in and just make a couple big throws IMO.

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Only issue with Pats article is the Panthers weren't frequently behind IMO. They frequently blew leads.

It also implies Cam being the hot hand was a flukey thing. That has been Cam's entire football career. Offense works when it all goes through Newton. He isn't a guy who can come in and just make a couple big throws IMO.

It wasn't implying it was flueky at all for Cam to be that hot, it implies the coaches may make a concerted effort to involve the run game more.

As to the playing-from-behind bit, we were behind a decent amount at various points, particularly early in the year, though I think the bigger reason for the run/pass disparity was us "breaking Cam in"

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It is still out smarting ourselves. NFL is making it easier and easier to pass. Nothing suggests Ds are going to get rules back to aid them.

they are adding better athletes at DT, yes. the space cloggers are going away....but there are still monsters on the DLs.

And the road grading OL doesnt fair as well in pass protection.....so that still leaves you in a passing league protecting your QB with an OL emphazing the run.

Seriously when you say things like this you essentially are saying you think that you are smarter than Chud and know better what we should be doing than he is doing. Otherwise why do you think we drafted a road grader like Silatolu in the second. You think Chud had nothing to do with that. We have a great offensive coordinator who is getting the players he thinks he needs to run his offense. Unless you are going to act like you know more about offense than he does, it is hard to take your opinion very seriously.

Our line was ranked 5th in run blocking and 20th in pass blocking last year but the pass blocking numbers were totally based on sacks which are going to be high because like Ben for Pittsburgh, Cam tends to hold the ball too long always thinking he can run his way out of trouble.

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Stewart is a huge part of the passing game. Both blocking and receiving. People don't seem to understand this.

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Seriously when you say things like this you essentially are saying you think that you are smarter than Chud and know better what we should be doing than he is doing. Otherwise why do you think we drafted a road grader like Silatolu in the second. You think Chud had nothing to do with that. We have a great offensive coordinator who is getting the players he thinks he needs to run his offense. Unless you are going to act like you know more about offense than he does, it is hard to take your opinion very seriously.

Our line was ranked 5th in run blocking and 20th in pass blocking last year but the pass blocking numbers were totally based on sacks which are going to be high because like Ben for Pittsburgh, Cam tends to hold the ball too long always thinking he can run his way out of trouble.

I wish CRA had an opportunity to interview Hurney, Rivera, and Chud... I'd love to hear him question their motives and then get schooled.

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We'll see what happens but let's be realistic.

With our poor defensive line, anemic pass rush, and generally shoddy secondary, it's possible the score could be 21-7 quickly...in several games. That's when you need receivers, not running backs.

Prisco says he respects Hurney but then disses him for this move.

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Butbutbutbut... If teams are all suiting up to the play the pass with smaller safeties, linebackers and pass rushers then shouldn't the Panthers attack be sitting pretty?

Jeeze Pete, the absence of a running game was why they were successful? You're sure it wasn't Peyton Manning, Eli, Brady, or Kurt Warner? fugin' moron. You know what all those QBs really like? A runningback that can catch well and pound the clock at the end of games. Teams make runs and get to the SB sometimes because they have hot QBs, not because they don't have a dominant run game.

It's not like this Panthers offense is similar to any other offense. It's just not possible. Our runningbacks are extremely active in the passing game.

Not to mention Stewart will be restructured. We all know it's coming, and if I had to guess when, I'd say it'll happen in around two years when we extend Cam's contract. How many times have you heard: "Player X restructured and it helped sign Player Y"

Tolbert already took a paycut to play with Cam, I'm sure we'll get lots of discounts.

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Seriously when you say things like this you essentially are saying you think that you are smarter than Chud and know better what we should be doing than he is doing. Otherwise why do you think we drafted a road grader like Silatolu in the second. You think Chud had nothing to do with that. We have a great offensive coordinator who is getting the players he thinks he needs to run his offense. Unless you are going to act like you know more about offense than he does, it is hard to take your opinion very seriously.

Our line was ranked 5th in run blocking and 20th in pass blocking last year but the pass blocking numbers were totally based on sacks which are going to be high because like Ben for Pittsburgh, Cam tends to hold the ball too long always thinking he can run his way out of trouble.

I am not the one claiming Chud is going to run the wishbone and become a run oriented OC. Those arguing suddenly we are going to go back to the days off being a RB focused team are the ones contradicting what Chud/Norv have always been about.

We took a big step last year in getting away from being RB driven and being QB driven. I agreed 100% with that....and expect Chud to CONTINUE to do so. We will run. It is part of his offense functioning. The days of this offense being about Double Trouble ended when Cam AND Chud arrived IMO.

I think Silalotu has a diverse and high upside....and Hurney/Rivers likely drafted him for that reason. Not some idea that Chud is thinking screw these rules that setup my passing offense....we are going old school smash mouth.

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I wish CRA had an opportunity to interview Hurney, Rivera, and Chud... I'd love to hear him question their motives and then get schooled.

Yeah, they made the offense all about Newton last year....which is what I love. Which a reasonable person could assume it will be again this year. Why wouldn't the offense be built around and through the guy with a ceiling potentially higher than any QB in NFL history. I wouldn't be the knucklehead asking Chud if he was going to run the wishbone 80 times this year bc I think it would be unstoppable and that we should unlike last year focus on run, run, run the RBs.

I would assume though that Rivera/Chud dont have much to assume with the contracts. Hurney has been overpaying guys long before they arrived.

You guys are predicting things that contradict what we saw last year....not me.

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We'll see what happens but let's be realistic.

With our poor defensive line, anemic pass rush, and generally shoddy secondary, it's possible the score could be 21-7 quickly...in several games. That's when you need receivers, not running backs.

Prisco says he respects Hurney but then disses him for this move.

The issue that Prisco ignores is that we can pass as well as run. It isn't like we ran for 2400 yards and only passed for 2500 more. We had the thirteenth most passing yards to go along with our 3rd most rushing yards. It wasn't as if our offense didn't work or needed to be revamped. Why would we change anything when we had the 7th best offense in the league with a rookie at the helm. And when you look at yards per play we were 4th in the league.

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I am not the one claiming Chud is going to run the wishbone and become a run oriented OC. Those arguing suddenly we are going to go back to the days off being a RB focused team are the ones contradicting what Chud/Norv have always been about.

We took a big step last year in getting away from being RB driven and being QB driven. I agreed 100% with that....and expect Chud to CONTINUE to do so. We will run. It is part of his offense functioning. The days of this offense being about Double Trouble ended when Cam AND Chud arrived IMO.

I think Silalotu has a diverse and high upside....and Hurney/Rivers likely drafted him for that reason. Not some idea that Chud is thinking screw these rules that setup my passing offense....we are going old school smash mouth.

So if this offense is not about double trouble then why did we just sign Stewart yesterday instead of trading him or letting him leave in free agency.

And there were lots of guys we could have drafted if we didn't want a big nasty run blocking guard. Hurney has repeatedly said he likes that Silatolu is nasty and brings an aggressive and tough attitude to the position. Plus Rivera has said he wants the offense to be aggressive and dictate to the defense not the other way around.

That sounds smashmouthed to me. I think you are wrong again.

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