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Tax returns: Romney required VPs to submit more than 2 yrs

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Quit being ignorant and watch the video, because i know for a fact you didn't. It's not a birther issue, it's a citizenship issue. And it is a legit issue, not like someone paying the least he can in taxes, which last time I checked is perfectly legal, and in fact is espoused by every person I know.

It's put our by birther report.com or whatever and the central conclusion is that Obama's step father adopted him and Obama exploited Columbia admissions claiming he was an Indonesian and then later "changed his mind" when he got into politics. Yes, I listened to it and yes it is birther nonsense. We have no proof of basically anything that happened in his childhood beyond him going to school in Indonesia and this theory assumes that both Columbia and Harvard are complicit in this lie which is very unlikely. It assumes that someone who graduated with Latin honors was not intelligent enough to get into a college and had to exploit his way in.

None of that has to do with Romney hypocrisy in requiring multiple years of tax returns to vet

Vps but saying the American public doesn't need more than two.

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It is unfortunate who posted the link on youtube, but the investigation and facts are very much factual.And It has everything to do with this threads argument, in that neither it nor the tax return debate will even matter if the next president continues the fiscal irresponsibility that we've been practicing. Just like the "war on women" , gay rights, supposed global warming etc. won't matter if we go bankrupt and collapse. The country might be on different sides of the aisle, but the economy should be front and center and that's it.

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Agreed. If the debt thing is not dealt with right away, we will have nothing to argue over very soon.

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Err then you may want to vote for Johnson or something because Ryan's budget doesn't "deal" with the debt right away either it takes a long term approach of cutting benefits and taxes that still leaves us with a deficit in 10 years.

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It also does not do a thing about our massive defense spending, which is kind of a tip off there's nothing actually serious about this plan or it's originators desire to do something relevant about spending. It's just a conservative line in the sand.

In order to get anything done in Washington, compromise is key. Ryan does not understand what that means, which explains why the only 2 bills he's sponsored that actually got passed in 13 years were one renaming a post office, and one having to do with how arrows are taxed (evidently he likes bows and arrows or something).

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Actually if we want to talk facts, defense spending is at 4% or so of GDP. Include the extra money used to fund the war and you're still at 5% . Anybody want to take a guess at social program spending?

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Actually if we want to talk facts, defense spending is at 4% or so of GDP. Include the extra money used to fund the war and you're still at 5% . Anybody want to take a guess at social program spending?

It is about 16% of GDP....which is pretty much the same as Canada and Australia.

However, Canada and Australia's spend INCLUDES a single payer health care system which constitutes a large portion of their total spend. We spend it WITHOUT a single payer system.

For those intellectually challenged (like CWG) that means that we provide a ton more social programs than most countries. The entitlement spending in this country is ridiculous and it is directly resulting in a lazy society.

Too many in this country see it as a badge of honor to be milking the system and not working.

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It is about 16% of GDP....which is pretty much the same as Canada and Australia.

However, Canada and Australia's spend INCLUDES a single payer health care system which constitutes a large portion of their total spend. We spend it WITHOUT a single payer system.

For those intellectually challenged (like CWG) that means that we provide a ton more social programs than most countries. The entitlement spending in this country is ridiculous and it is directly resulting in a lazy society.

Too many in this country see it as a badge of honor to be milking the system and not working.

bite your tongue...don't you know it's about shared sacrifice?

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It is about 16% of GDP....which is pretty much the same as Canada and Australia.

However, Canada and Australia's spend INCLUDES a single payer health care system which constitutes a large portion of their total spend. We spend it WITHOUT a single payer system.

For those intellectually challenged (like CWG) that means that we provide a ton more social programs than most countries. The entitlement spending in this country is ridiculous and it is directly resulting in a lazy society.

Too many in this country see it as a badge of honor to be milking the system and not working.

I actually think it's 24% according to a bunch of places I've looked. But overall I do agree with your statement, we need to wrangle this thing back in before we're greece x2

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For those intellectually challenged (like CWG) that means that we provide a ton more social programs than most countries. The entitlement spending in this country is ridiculous and it is directly resulting in a lazy society.

um i'm pretty sure that we have to spend so much through social programs in part due to income equality in america, as seen here (for the "intellectually challenged," a high gini coefficient is bad):

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and also due to the private sector's failure to provide affordable, accessible healthcare. while those who have no interest in fixing america's problems (or those who have difficulty understanding america's problems) might suggest cutting social programs across the board, the problem and solution is a little more complex than "HURR DURR POOR PEOPLE ARE PARASITES SO YOU CAN SINK OR SWIM, DIPSHITS"

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