I don't think less of anyone's degree(anyone not connected to sports) because of this. But if anyone does feel that way, blame your school, not State fans. To me, this post reads as "my school cheated, how dare these rival fans expose it, now people are gonna question my degree.". Shouldn't you be mad at your own institution? Look, at State, Duke and everywhere else there are easy majors for athletes. But this wasn't about easy majors, this was about FAKE classes. Classes that never met, work that was never done, papers that were lifted entirely from 100 year old books with no citations and given passing grades. This was pure fraud. Now, you might think that when that goes on, everybody should just shut up and deal with it, but the rest of us are tired of hearing about the Carolina Way and tired of losing recruits to Roy Williams telling some kid's momma about how UNC graduates 99% of their athletes. UNC has always maintained that they were different, they were special, and they were the flagship, not like those rednecks down in Raleigh. Now all of a sudden, it's "everybody does it". Well, everybody doesn't do it. And even if they did, what happened to being above all that? What happened to the Carolina Way?
But you guys are writing the rules as you go. Do you all know for sure who had knowledge of this? Do you know how far it went up? Do you know for certain how widespread it was across sports? NO, NO, and NO. And neither do I.
I believe those who knew are gone.
If you want some cold hard truth, I know first hand of one bball player who thought he was too good to show up to a class and the prof failed him. And from what I heard, he even tried to "pull rank" so to speak and she still failed him. You know what dept. this class was in? Exercise and Sports Science. The one dept. that should look out for athletes above all others, and my prof gloated about failing him because he was such a jackhole.
He was the exception. I had one class with three basketball players all together one semester. Each of them showed up and each of them participated whether they wanted to or not. Also, I started noticing after awhile that in each of my classes that I happened to take with a player (especially basketball players), an elderly gentleman would come by and peek into the class and wave at them or point to them... Obviously, making sure they were where they were supposed to be.
Again, this isn't just about UNC, Staters just want to make it about that. Can you explain to me how the guy I played JUCO with ever got into State despite being as dumb as a brick? Someone had to bend rules somewhere, because it's no knock on him, but I doubt he could even write his name on the SAT. Guess what? He flunked out of JUCO. How was he ever accepted into State?
You guys want to talk about Jim Valvano? Chris Washburn?
Cheating is cheating, no matter what color you prefer.
Hate continues to blind so many from the fact that if you are landing top recruits, you are bending rules, most likely making up classes, and boosting grades. I'm not excusing it, but I'm tired of my school getting crapped on when they are far from the worst "violators" of NCAA rules. They just got caught... Meanwhile, it will continue to go on rampantly at every sports powerhouse in the NCAA until some rival or bitter former player rats on them. And regardless of what you say, it doesn't matter if you
don't think any less of my degree (and no, I didn't major in AFAM, lol), what matters is that the more this crap gets stirred up, many people will. And THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO.
At big-time athletic powerhouse schools, there is two distinct populations - students and athletes. They each are expected to live up to their own set of rules, with athletes having to abide to very few, b/c of who they are. If you think any different, even at State, you're kidding yourself.
I appreciate your respectful tone, but the whole issue needs to be let go... Like I said, if you think State is clean RIGHT NOW, you're extremely naive... And how would you like everyone to start sniffing around your school - especially "Wal-Mart" Heel fans, as you like to call them - and start posting something almost weekly, hoping to diminish what you accomplished?
I beat the odds, I worked hard, much harder than most silver spoon-fed, old money having yuppies ever did to get where I am today, so I'm not going to apologize for taking umbrage to these wholly encompassing insults and accusations towards my alma mater.
If these idiots who keep digging it up earned a valid education and weren't student athletes, they should back off out of respect for their peers - whether we went to different schools or not.