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Kicker battle getting serious!

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Medlocke is younger and will be cheaper.

Mare never stood a chance in Charlotte replacing John Kasay, wouldn't have mattered if he was kicking at a 95% accuracy rate. The Panthers could have brought back Jan Stenerud from the dead in his prime and Panthers fans would not have been happy.

Kasay and Mare both missed 6 FGs last season, Kasay was 28/34 while Mare was 22/28. And don't forget Kasay was kicking in a dome off turf for at least 9 of the Saints* games last season.

Because Mare missed 2 chip shots that could possibly have been game winners is what most delusional fans will remember. So, let's say one of those was a certain game winner and the team ends up 7-9 instead of 6-10... does that make you feel better?

Put a lot of the problem not on the kickers and start looking at the special teams. Look at the Houston game when the Texans returner decided to come out of the deep end zone on a kickoff and 3 Panthers had the guy wrapped at the 4 yard line and he somehow gets to the 20. Look at last night when the Dolphins weren't afraid to come out of the EZ, regardless how deep the kick was. That's the real key... if your special teams suck, it gets scouted just like everything else and nobody will have any second thoughts about returning from deep in the end zone.

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Here's the kind of thing that matters to Hurney:

John Kasay was a leftie.

Medlock is a leftie.

We loved Kasay.

Brownie points for Medlock.

In this case, I can live with this kind of reasoning.

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TCF if you are gonna break stuff. Break Mare's stuff! Why break your own?

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Medlocke is younger and will be cheaper.

Mare never stood a chance in Charlotte replacing John Kasay, wouldn't have mattered if he was kicking at a 95% accuracy rate.

Kasay and Mare both missed 6 FGs last season, Kasay's percentage is higher simply because he had more attempts (28/34) while Mare was 22/28. And don't forget Kasay was kicking in a dome off turf for at least 9 of the Saints** games last season.

Because Mare missed 2 chip shots that could possibly have been game winners is what most delusional fans will remember. So, let's say one of those was a certain game winner and the team ends up 7-9 instead of 6-10... does that make you feel better?

Put a lot of the problem not on the kickers and start looking at the special teams. Look at the Houston game when the Texans returner decided to come out of the deep end zone on a kickoff and 3 Panthers had the guy wrapped at the 4 yard line and he somehow gets to the 20. Look at last night when the Dolphins weren't afraid to come out of the EZ, regardless how deep the kick was. That's the real key... if your special teams suck, it gets scouted just like everything else and nobody will have any second thoughts about returning from deep in the end zone.

This is a great point. I think I saw Miami return a kickoff from like 8 yards deep into the end zone. Seems like the KR liked his chances or had the coaches' go ahead. Either way I am convinced that this happened largely because teams have seen the tape of our kick coverage and know they can exploit that weakness.

The only solution is kicking it out of the end zone on every kickoff. Mare can do it. Medlock gets about 8yds deep at best. There is almost always a missed tackle initially and the KR gets an extra 10 TDs. Mare gives us better average field position.

On the other hand, last night they had the stat that Mare had like 52 of 81 kickoffs as touchbacks. 2nd best in the league. That didn't really translate into more wins. I would almost rather have had the FG vs. Minn. Medlock is money from inside 50. That's hard to turn down.

Very tough choice for RR. Right now I think they will ultimately stick with Mare, for better or worse.

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You would try to insert facts into this equation! :rolleyes:

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Mare was second in the league in touchbacks lasts season with 53. The only guy in front of him, ironically, is the New Orleans punter, Thomas Morstead, who does kickoff duties for the Saints*. Why? Because John Kasay is on that team.

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poo!! Cut Clausen and keep both of them!!

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This is a great point. I think I saw Miami return a kickoff from like 8 yards deep into the end zone. Seems like the KR liked his chances or had the coaches' go ahead. Either way I am convinced that this happened largely because teams have seen the tape of our kick coverage and know they can exploit that weakness.

The only solution is kicking it out of the end zone on every kickoff. Mare can do it. Medlock gets about 8yds deep at best. There is almost always a missed tackle initially and the KR gets an extra 10 TDs. Mare gives us better average field position.

On the other hand, last night they had the stat that Mare had like 52 of 81 kickoffs as touchbacks. 2nd best in the league. That didn't really translate into more wins. I would almost rather have had the FG vs. Minn. Medlock is money from inside 50. That's hard to turn down.

Very tough choice for RR. Right now I think they will ultimately stick with Mare, for better or worse.

Great point.

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People forget Mare cost us some wins with his inability to hit field goals. I rather keep the guy who can get the FG issue locked down.

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I think we should go against stereotypes and keep Medlock.

Honestly, I think this is what's going to happen:

We keep Mare but tell Medlock to be ready because Olindo is out chances.

Money may factor into this as well. It may come down to keeping Medlock just based on him being a bargain over Mare.

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