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#25 redbuddha

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

Best preseason game of Rivera's tenure!

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:13 AM

Panthers looked real good. Keep in mind we had Cam Wake, Karlos Dansby and Kevin Burnett out of our lineup.

and we had jon beason and thomas davis out of ours (not that davis is starting).

and...cam didn't run.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:20 AM

On the Cam INT...Sean Smith rode 89 all the way up the field making contact and grabbing him..either way I'll take a deep throw to 89 one on one..let him make a play.

Offense would've scored 50 points last night. Miami had no answer.

Charles took over last night.



How much you want to bet Smitty told Cam to throw him the ball no matter what. I'm sure Cam could have thrown it to another receiver.

We all know Smitty is VERY competitive and felt he could have out ran Sean despite his age..LOL

Must give Cam credit for throwing where he wanted it to go. It was up to Smitty to catch it.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:23 AM

and we had jon beason and thomas davis out of ours (not that davis is starting).

and...cam didn't run.


Rayzor, you must be thankful that you have a QB who can run when he needs to and not one who runs cause he has no other alternative. :)

Your truly,

A Jets team sufferer.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:26 AM

How may TD did Cam actually have. NFLN re-aired the game at 12:00 AM but I fell asleep watching it.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:30 AM

Rayzor, you must be thankful that you have a QB who can run when he needs to and not one who runs cause he has no other alternative. :)

Your truly,

A Jets team sufferer.

yes.

what i saw (and this is 100% me reading between the lines/pulling it out my butt) is a team wanting to show that they can be a dominant team without cam's running ability.

because if they can show themselves to be that, then we have something pretty near unstoppable.

that doesn't mean i don't want cam to run. that means i want them to be dominant without having to rely on his running ability.

people will be saying that the only reason this offense is so good is because of cam's running ability. i just want them to see the offense as a whole as being this incredible machine that can win games without cam running but will absolutely destroy any opponent with him running. i want this offense...this TEAM to be respected and not just because cam can run.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:43 AM

Byron Bell looked good. Was watching him specifically on several plays and he more than held his own. I don't know why people insist on hating on this guy. He more than earns his keep.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:11 PM

The throw was a questionable decision, but it shows he trusts Smitty. It was definitely a PI, what changed it from normal give and take to PI was when the CB nudged Smitty's shoulder enough to turn Smitty around a little bit. Once you affect a WR's route after 5 yards, it's gonna get called every time.


I agree with you that it was PI, but agree more on the 'questionable decision'. I'm great with the fact that Cam trusts Smitty, BUT...Sean Smith (the corner) is 6'-3", Smitty is 5'-9" AND the corner had position the entire route. Bad decision Cam...don't do that again!

Cam had a great night & the team seemed to really find itself. They did not seem lost or forced until the end of the 3rd & 4th quarter. Nice progress.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:14 PM

I was at a high school football game last night but cranked up the DVR this morning. I only watched the first quarter (so far), but wow what a quarter.

DeAngelo gave a big FU to the guys that keep saying trade him, he's too expensive, we have J-Stew, blah, blah.

O-Line looked very good.

Cam.... I wasn't a big fan when he was drafted, but man....kid can play. And as stated earlier, he didn't run.

Smitty's trash talk seems to be in mid-season from. Love the fire from him!

Charles Johnson was a beast.

D-Line gets a game ball. Hardy needs to do something or he's going to be sitting.

The thing I liked the most is the guys came out and played with intensity, and more importantly they looked sharp.

Secondary still worries me, but with Norman being a rookie, I think that's going to improve a ton over the course of the season. If we can throw a healthy Beason in to help direct traffic, that'll help some, and throw in a few blitzes now and then with he and/or Davis.

Still not sold on a definitely #3 and 4 receiver. To me, no one has stepped up, but part of that is we spread the ball around so well last night (good problem to have).

Good times!

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:21 PM

I agree with you that it was PI, but agree more on the 'questionable decision'. I'm great with the fact that Cam trusts Smitty, BUT...Sean Smith (the corner) is 6'-3", Smitty is 5'-9" AND the corner had position the entire route. Bad decision Cam...don't do that again!

Cam had a great night & the team seemed to really find itself. They did not seem lost or forced until the end of the 3rd & 4th quarter. Nice progress.


Do you not get that Smitty was about to blow pass Sean, which is why he grabbed Smitty's shoulder to pull him back?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:24 PM

I agree with you that it was PI, but agree more on the 'questionable decision'. I'm great with the fact that Cam trusts Smitty, BUT...Sean Smith (the corner) is 6'-3", Smitty is 5'-9" AND the corner had position the entire route. Bad decision Cam...don't do that again!

Cam had a great night & the team seemed to really find itself. They did not seem lost or forced until the end of the 3rd & 4th quarter. Nice progress.


If Sean's coverage was so good on that route, then why did he feel the need to hold?

It was not a bad decision by Cam. He saw the man coverage and he saw a free TD.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:27 PM

I questioned the OP's cred the moment I read "bad PI call". . . dude clearly grabbed Smith's left shoulder and yoinked him back. . . . in fact, it was an obvious call. Why bother reading the rest of the post at that point.