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#41 Tarheels23

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:47 PM

Not sure what you are talking about.

Because I try not to speak out of my rear, I just replayed that. I remembered it correctly. If anything, the corner was getting better position on Steve.

The corner had him the entire way. Why would you put forth an ignorant & untrue statement?

The 1 thing I didn't recall, was exactly how bad the pass was. It was perfectly to the corner (Smitty was nearly even visable...6-3 to 5-9 height difference does tend to dwarf a guy). Smitty was NOT taking off from the corner. Unfortunately, of course...I would have preferred that reality played out the way you made it sound.



okay I'm confused, are you saying Sean didn't grab Smittys shoulder with his right hand?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:51 PM

If Sean's coverage was so good on that route, then why did he feel the need to hold?

It was not a bad decision by Cam. He saw the man coverage and he saw a free TD.


I've now re-watched the play 8 times (not including the live coverage of the game). I have no idea why. Re-watch it & tell me that he needed to. He's 6" taller, had better position, etc.

Smitty may have been able to seperate if more time or no grab, but that's conjecture..it didn;t ahppen that way.

Is it that hard to say Smitty didn't have 1 corner beat on 1 play? This is surreal. Go RE-WATCH the play. Smitty 'could have', but didn't have him beat at all.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:53 PM

okay I'm confused, are you saying Sean didn't grab Smittys shoulder with his right hand?


OMF goodness gracious! The corner DID grab Smitty. Where did I say otherwise or even insinuate that?!

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:55 PM

OMF goodness gracious! The corner DID grab Smitty. Where did I say otherwise or even insinuate that?!


First off, Lighten up Francis!

Secondly, why do you think Sean grabbed Smitty, other than the fact that, Smitty was about to blow pass him?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:01 PM

You guys do realize Hardy was up against Jake Long, right? Top 3 Tackle in the league.



this has been stated on this board today quit a few times...........

apparently some people just don't care or don't get it.


I myself thought Hardy played rather well....considering

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:03 PM

Can't say I agree with this. In a 'normal' situation, where the WR has a step on a corner, you may be right, BUT...it was bad from the get go, thru the conclusion. The corner did not need to grab Smitty & the corner was in a better position throughout the play.

In this case, I would have rather Cam checked down & lived for another play; luckily the refs saw the grab.


Not sure if he needed to grab him, but he did. Don't think the corner would have made the pick without the armbar holding Smitty back.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:04 PM

The throw was a questionable decision, but it shows he trusts Smitty. It was definitely a PI, what changed it from normal give and take to PI was when the CB nudged Smitty's shoulder enough to turn Smitty around a little bit. Once you affect a WR's route after 5 yards, it's gonna get called every time.


I agree, it was most deff PI...textbook PI even. Smith (dolphins) clearly stuck out his right arm and stopped Smitty.

Good call.


I have to admit I was extremely pleased with these officials, they are really getting better after being thrown into full speed action.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:06 PM

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:09 PM

Tolbert had a great game at Fullback last night. I don't know what you were watching.


those responses come from... heavy drinking.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:09 PM

every QB in the NFL will throw it to their #1 if he was 1on1 with a CB.


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