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#31 Jesse

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:28 PM

Green Bay and New England don't have the running back strength like we do, but we're not 4 WR deep like they both are (Jennings, Driver, Nelson, Jones)/(Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Gaffney). Detroit has a pretty talented corps as well (Johnson, Young, Burleson, Pettigrew).

We definitely have the most diverse offense that can score with any skill player that's on the field.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:30 PM

We're in the Top 7 for sure. But there is no possible way to prove we are the best. We'd need a MUCH better line, LaFell to have proven himself already, and a TE to match anything Gronk or Graham have done. This season will be a good test to see if we can hold our own with the big dogs.



I believe that we'll be able to prove it this year. Pretty sure that statistically however those nerds figure it... We have the toughest schedule in the League... We can prove that we're top 5 easily even with our schedule. That's assuming we stay healthy just as NO, NE, etc do too.



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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:56 PM

While we have the best run game, we don't have the best WR corps, or the best QB, or the best O-Line. It's really a combo of all of that to be called the best. If any team has a better QB, WR, and O-Line, they're better than we are.

#34 JawnyBlaze

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:02 AM

Going out your mind bro.

Pats: Brady, Gronk, Hernandez, Welker, Lloyd
NO: Brees, Colston, Ingram, Sproles, Graham,
GB: Rodgers, Jennings, Driver, Cobb, Finley, Jones, Benson
Philly: Vick, Jackson, Maclin, Celek, McCoy
Etc.

Please, no one else create a thread saying we have the best LBs crew. Just look at SF first before thinking about it



You gotta be joking. I'd say the Pats, NO and GB are right there with us, wouldn't say our offensive stars are easily better than theirs, but putting Philly in the conversation? Laughable. I'd argue the Bears have as good a group as Philly now that they might have some guys who can catch the football. Using my own highly scientific grading process:

On Philly, Celek is average, Jackson and Maclin are barely above average at best, Vick is between above average and a star when he can stay healthy (meaning he's usually not even a factor) and McCoy is a star.

On the Pats, Lloyd and Hernandez are above average, Welker is somewhere between above average and a star in the NE system (outside of it he's average at best), and Gronk and Brady are superstars.

On NO, Ingram is average, Colston and Sproles are above average, and Brees and Graham are superstars.

On GB, Driver is a once star now average, Cobb and Jones are average, Nelson, Benson and Finley are above average, Jennings is a star and Rodgers is a superstar.

On Carolina, objectively, Tolbert and Lafell are average, Olsen is above average, Deangelo and Stewart are somewhere between above average and stars (even objective fans would agree they'd be stars in a single back system), Cam is between a star and superstar, and Smitty is a superstar.

We'd have to be right there among NE, NO and GB for most talented offensive skill players, and our O-line puts any of those teams' to shame except NO.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:06 AM

While we have the best run game, we don't have the best WR corps, or the best QB, or the best O-Line. It's really a combo of all of that to be called the best. If any team has a better QB, WR, and O-Line, they're better than we are.


I don't think any team does have better at all 3 groups than us, only NO comes close. The Pats have better QB and pass catchers, but definitely not a better O-line. Same with GB. NO has better QB and pass catchers and their O-line is at least close to ours if not equal. As a whole offensive unit I'd give NO the edge over us, but no other team has more than 2 groups out of QB, pass catchers, RB and O-line equal or better than us.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:12 AM

NEWS FLASH: Our O-Line is not that good.

Philly has better pass catchers as of right now, a better statistical stud RB, and a QB who can usually compete with Cam.
NE has better pass catchers and a better QB.
GB has better pass catchers, a better O-Line, and a better QB.
NO has better pass catchers, a better O-Line, a RB corps that can statistically compete with ours, and a better QB.
You can even put Dallas, the Giants, Houston into the mix. We're in the mix too, but take your blue blinders off.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:25 AM

You gotta be joking. I'd say the Pats, NO and GB are right there with us, wouldn't say our offensive stars are easily better than theirs, but putting Philly in the conversation? Laughable. I'd argue the Bears have as good a group as Philly now that they might have some guys who can catch the football. Using my own highly scientific grading process:

On Philly, Celek is average, Jackson and Maclin are barely above average at best, Vick is between above average and a star when he can stay healthy (meaning he's usually not even a factor) and McCoy is a star.

On the Pats, Lloyd and Hernandez are above average, Welker is somewhere between above average and a star in the NE system (outside of it he's average at best), and Gronk and Brady are superstars.

On NO, Ingram is average, Colston and Sproles are above average, and Brees and Graham are superstars.

On GB, Driver is a once star now average, Cobb and Jones are average, Nelson, Benson and Finley are above average, Jennings is a star and Rodgers is a superstar.

On Carolina, objectively, Tolbert and Lafell are average, Olsen is above average, Deangelo and Stewart are somewhere between above average and stars (even objective fans would agree they'd be stars in a single back system), Cam is between a star and superstar, and Smitty is a superstar.

We'd have to be right there among NE, NO and GB for most talented offensive skill players, and our O-line puts any of those teams' to shame except NO.


True dat on the bears. Any of y'all see their game tonight? Their O looked sharp. Cutler with time to throw, Forte, Bush, Marshall, Hester, Bennett and the rookie Jeffries. F-ing scary.

Whatever week we play them is going to be a shootout on par with the Lions game last year.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:28 AM

lol Our strength is in the run game. GB, NO, DET, NE their strength is in the passing game.
To me were are about the 5th best offensive team.
1. Green Bay
2. New England
3. New Orleans
4. Detroit
5. Carolina

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:32 AM

we've got a great offense - frankly I don't care if we're #1 (but we're not ;) ), #5, or what... exciting as poo to watch either way.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:36 AM

Yea, Detroit is up there, but they don't have much outside of Stafford and Calvin. Young might turn into something, but he's no better than Lafell or Murphy yet. I'd agree they're in that top 5, Stafford and Johnson are just that good. To me, it really goes top 3: GB, NE, NO are the obvious standouts, but Detroit and Carolina are just outside that tier.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:23 AM

Top 5 Running Game
Top 5 O Line
Top 5 Passing Game
Top 5 QB


Fixed.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:29 AM

On paper maybe, but the Texans did handle us pretty good.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:04 AM

You gotta be joking. I'd say the Pats, NO and GB are right there with us, wouldn't say our offensive stars are easily better than theirs, but putting Philly in the conversation? Laughable. I'd argue the Bears have as good a group as Philly now that they might have some guys who can catch the football. Using my own highly scientific grading process:

On Philly, Celek is average, Jackson and Maclin are barely above average at best, Vick is between above average and a star when he can stay healthy (meaning he's usually not even a factor) and McCoy is a star.

On the Pats, Lloyd and Hernandez are above average, Welker is somewhere between above average and a star in the NE system (outside of it he's average at best), and Gronk and Brady are superstars.

On NO, Ingram is average, Colston and Sproles are above average, and Brees and Graham are superstars.

On GB, Driver is a once star now average, Cobb and Jones are average, Nelson, Benson and Finley are above average, Jennings is a star and Rodgers is a superstar.

On Carolina, objectively, Tolbert and Lafell are average, Olsen is above average, Deangelo and Stewart are somewhere between above average and stars (even objective fans would agree they'd be stars in a single back system), Cam is between a star and superstar, and Smitty is a superstar.

We'd have to be right there among NE, NO and GB for most talented offensive skill players, and our O-line puts any of those teams' to shame except NO.


For GB Starks is at least average. Also if Cam is between a star and superstar based on last season so is Nelson.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:10 AM

Starks is a fumble machine and grant isn't even on the team anymore

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:37 AM

Starks is a fumble machine and grant isn't even on the team anymore


Forgot about Grant but Starks only had 2 fumbles last season.


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