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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:30 PM

Yup, we should focus on the run game to setup our play action passes and win TOP.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:38 PM

If we switch to ground and pound....we won't be as efficient. We were a great rushing team in 2011. Not a ground and pound offense.

I still don't get why people want to fix what isn't broken. Cam will get better as well.


perhaps ground and pound is too ancient of a term to use here... As Hurney said it sets the tone, you don't have to implement a traditional Power-O philosophy as much as if the D is putting 7 in the box I fully expect to see more running than passing in those situations..

Not because Cam can't throw, instead it wears down a defense which could have closed out a few games last year... By the 4th quarter we can lean on that running game and burn off the clock..

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:48 PM

Yes...

My reasoning behind this is all the money we are spending on running backs and fullbacks. A lot of $$ being thrown at them not to run the ball.

This will also open up the passing game the more successful we are running the ball

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:56 PM

perhaps ground and pound is too ancient of a term to use here... As Hurney said it sets the tone, you don't have to implement a traditional Power-O philosophy as much as if the D is putting 7 in the box, I fully expect to see more running than passing in those situations..

Not because Cam can't throw, but because it wears down a defense which could have closed out a few games last year... By the 4th quarter we can lean on that running game and burn off the clock..


I have no issue running and especially running from spread options looks....

Ground and pound implies traditional power run formations....and getting away from that + Cam gave us one of the best attacks we have seen in a single season. So yeah, that wording may make me think one thing and you be meaning another.


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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:59 PM

I think we will run the ball as long as we can get 1st downs and not have to play from behind a lot. If our DEF can hold the lead, and we control the clock, that is a recipe for success.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:55 PM

I have no issue running and especially running from spread options looks....

Ground and pound implies traditional power run formations....and getting away from that + Cam gave us one of the best attacks we have seen in a single season. So yeah, that wording may make me think one thing and you be meaning another.


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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:12 PM

Yes...

My reasoning behind this is all the money we are spending on running backs and fullbacks. A lot of $$ being thrown at them not to run the ball.

This will also open up the passing game the more successful we are running the ball


Rookie Cam Newton broke Mannings record with no offseason.....yet we need to find a way to open up the passing game more?

We had Double Trouble last year....paychecks don't determine how you call games. Williams had more touches in 2007 as Fosters backup than in 2011... and 2011 was year one of his huge new deal.

I just don't see it. Nothing from year 1 of the Chud era seems to backup this rampant run more campaign.

Cam will be better...why take it out of his hands now when the coaches have voiced they wanted a heavy load on him early bc that was what the offense would require.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:14 PM

I think ground and pound is an archaic but realistic approach to our running game. If our Offense is as balanced as we believe it will, our running game will be even more effective. I can see our YPC as a team close to 6ypc.

So yes our ground game will pound you.

But our passing game will kill you if you fall asleep.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:23 PM

Rookie Cam Newton broke Mannings record with no offseason.....yet we need to find a way to open up the passing game more?

We had Double Trouble last year....paychecks don't determine how you call games. Williams had more touches in 2007 as Fosters backup than in 2011... and 2011 was year one of his huge new deal.

I just don't see it. Nothing from year 1 of the Chud era seems to backup this rampant run more campaign.

Cam will be better...why take it out of his hands now when the coaches have voiced they wanted a heavy load on him early bc that was what the offense would require.


Look at it this way. Other teams have their RB that can do RB things. Our RB are weapons. Surround Cam with as many weapons as possible. Cam has a dozen or more years left. Double Trouble does not. Maybe in a coulple of years Cam won't need DT. But why do we have to find out now?

By the time Cam needs to be taken care of, both DWill and Stew will be off the books.

Also. As happy as I am that Cam did not run the other night. I know that is not going to be the trend. His running is a weapon that needs to be used. But it was nice, and it put teams on notice, that we could score without Cam running.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:36 PM

Look at it this way. Other teams have their RB that can do RB things. Our RB are weapons. Surround Cam with as many weapons as possible. Cam has a dozen or more years left. Double Trouble does not. Maybe in a coulple of years Cam won't need DT. But why do we have to find out now?

By the time Cam needs to be taken care of, both DWill and Stew will be off the books.

Also. As happy as I am that Cam did not run the other night. I know that is not going to be the trend. His running is a weapon that needs to be used. But it was nice, and it put teams on notice, that we could score without Cam running.


Contracts and my belief we over invested at RB has nothing to do with my opinion on this issue. We ran perfectly last year.....no need to fix what doesn't need fixing.

We can get better passing. I think we will. Cam is going to have a huge load and he should (running and passing).

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:18 PM

Teams are starting to build defenses to stop the pass. We are building our offense to be a dangerous run team, with vertical passing ability.

I like it.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:24 PM

Teams are starting to build defenses to stop the pass. We are building our offense to be a dangerous run team, with vertical passing ability.

I like it.


We saw more 5k and 4 k passers last year than any time in NFL history. We saw 2 QBs break Marinos record. Cam broke All that in one year....2011.

Teams are not stopping the pass. Passing is getting easier.....Ds are trying to do anything they can to contain it. it ain't working well.

The spread option is the next wave about to hit the NFL. We should lead that charge. I think we will...and we did last year.