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Haruki Nakamura #1 FS.

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[quote name='panther4life' timestamp='1345587564' post='1867246']

Surely you can't be serious.
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You tell me what have you seen or heard that said Nakamura earned this job?

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People quit arguing over guys who are not going to be starter next year. RR will draft a Safety next year. Best thing is to hope that Martin, Nakamura or Smith doesn't blossom so we'll get to address that spot in the draft or FA (Kenny Phillips?). Get ready.

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1345587660' post='1867249']

Put how ever you want. 1 player is coming up to contract time and the other has a cheap 2-3 year deal.

Seem like this is more of a money choice then a football choice.
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So to clarify you think this is a masterful plan to convince Martin to sign for less next offseason and then put him back as the starter? If we plan on letting him walk why not let Martin(if he truly is the better option)play the year out and then let him walk if we can't afford him? To avoid backlash from the fan base??

If Hurney has done anything since being here, its been finding away to pay of all of our players who produce.

If you really feel that way this is more than an indictment against Hurney, it also says very bad things about Rivera too.

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[quote name='Tarheels23' timestamp='1345587812' post='1867253']
I haven't seen much of Nakamura in coverage, but he's a sure tackler, which I'm sure is what won him the job.
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When did you see the sure tackling part?

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1345587815' post='1867254']

You tell me what have you seen or heard that said Nakamura earned this job?
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Rivera has not named his week 1 starters yet. Nakumara is likely seeing some time with the first team to see how he looks. Pretty sure the coaches have a good handle on how Martin looks with them.

I firmly believe the best player will start week 1 and money will have no bearing on it.

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[quote name='panther4life' timestamp='1345588039' post='1867257']

So to clarify you think this is a masterful plan to convince Martin to sign for less next offseason and then put him back as the starter? If we plan on letting him walk why not let Martin(if he truly is the better option)play the year out and then let him walk if we can't afford him? To avoid backlash from the fan base??

If Hurney has done anything since being here, its been finding away to pay of all of our players who produce.

If you really feel that way this is more than an indictment against Hurney, it also says very bad things about Rivera too.
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This is his contract year and it's cheaper to keep him.Then just cutting him. But if they give this job to Nakamura (which again most of the beat writer would say hasn't really earned the job) then they are trying to phase Martin out the picture.

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[quote name='panther4life' timestamp='1345588250' post='1867260']

Rivera has not named his week 1 starters yet. Nakumara is likely seeing some time with the first team to see how he looks. Pretty sure the coaches have a good handle on how Martin looks with them.

I firmly believe the best player will start week 1 and money will have no bearing on it.
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I hope so. I hope they are not just giving him the job.

I've heard from a lot of the Panthers that Martin is one of the top athletes on the team.

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1345588329' post='1867263']


This is his contract year and it's cheaper to keep him.Then just cutting him. But if they give this job to Nakamura (which again most of the beat writer would say hasn't really earned the job) then they are trying to phase Martin out the picture.
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So your saying that want Nakumara to used to being the starter because they don't want to pay Martin next year?

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[quote name='KillerKat' timestamp='1345586806' post='1867238']

That's Hurney's #1 strategy. Pick up scraps and hope they can fill our holes.
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His number 1 strategy is paying his own players, which goes 100% against what KoolKatLuke is inferring.

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[quote name='panther4life' timestamp='1345588507' post='1867265']

So your saying that want Nakumara to used to being the starter because they don't want to pay Martin next year?
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The thought cross my mind. Like I've said if Nakamura was showing out in Camp and took the job for Martin. Then the idea wouldn't have came up. But from what I was reading and hearing from camp. Martin was the guy looking good.

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[quote name='panther4life' timestamp='1345588606' post='1867266']

His number 1 strategy is paying his own players, which goes 100% against what KoolKatLuke is inferring.
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We can't pay everyone we've drafted. Ask Will Witherspoon.

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I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading in this thread.

First, we hear of a front office conspiracy to deny Martin a payday. Second, we have a poster wanting all our safeties to fail this year so we can draft a new one next year. Finally, apparently our beat writers do not agree with the coaches' assessment of who gives us the best chance to win.

Maybe it's something in the water.
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