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#37 Lout

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 12:33 PM

We have Norman and Gamble... I'm sure more CB's will come. Calling him a "lock-down" CB is way too early

I'm sorry but O-Line > DB's especially if you got a star QB


I was making the assessment that JJ has been playing like a shutdown CB thus far. I agree, we can't put him in the same sentence as Revis yet, but if he continues to play the way he is playing, he could be a Top 5 CB in this league by year end.
Monsta evalutated JJ correctly and so did the Panthers. I am very happy with Norman, and Amini as well.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:00 PM

Lol I wanted Janoris Jenkins over him and was pissed STL got JJ right before we took Amini. My continued inability to evaluate college football talent never ceases to amaze me. From now on, whomever I say we should pick pre-draft, take ANYONE but that guy. I'm batting like .047 lifetime on draft talent evaluations.


Yes, everyone should just listen to me. I posted a mock with Kuechly and Silatolu as our first two picks back in February and got about laughed out of the draft forum.

But yeah, I also wanted Jenkins and was mad when they took him right before us.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:20 PM

Lol I wanted Janoris Jenkins over him and was pissed STL got JJ right before we took Amini. My continued inability to evaluate college football talent never ceases to amaze me. From now on, whomever I say we should pick pre-draft, take ANYONE but that guy. I'm batting like .047 lifetime on draft talent evaluations.


I am loving the honesty here. I was not a huge fan of this draft. However, the Panther's best drafts were in 2001 (Smith, Jenkins, Morgan) and 2007 (Beason, Kalil, Johnson). This draft COULD POSSIBLY be better: If things go as we figure the will, we will have 3 drafted players starting (Norman, Kuechly, and Silatolu). That has never happened. In addition, we probably have a punter and punt returner who will participate. Alexander could become a solid DE.

Take a look at the draft this year and possibly draw some comparisons to the panthers 2 best drafts:

Kuechly---Morgan, Beason
Alexander---Johnson
Adams---Smith
Silatolu----Kalil
Norman---no comparison

Of course, hypothetical at this point, but the comparisons are not far fetched. If you combine the 2001 and 2007 lists of top 3 picks (by the way---we had NO THIRD ROUNDER in 2012), you get a combined total of 2 rookie, first game starters (Morgan, Beason). The others were rotational or sat the bench. (Smith was a returner --a good one who made the pro bowl; Jenkins worked in as a rotational player; Kalil started at G and was benched; Johnson was a rotational second teamer)

Silatolu, Norman, Alexander, and Adams, and Luke could make this draft the best in team history--and I was cussing the whole time.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:20 PM

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:39 PM

We have Norman and Gamble... I'm sure more CB's will come. Calling him a "lock-down" CB is way too early

I'm sorry but O-Line > DB's especially if you got a star QB


Yeah, this is the way you have to look at it. We got a pretty good CB in the fifth round. Jenkins is good for now, but just wait.

But do not underestimate what Silatolu does for our team. He is a beast on the move, and right now, he is thinking on his feet. He should open up the run game (last season we ran left 80% of the time) and keep Cam healthy. As much as I liked Wharton, SIlatolu is already better. He is that good.

So, a player who opens up the run game and protects your franchise's best player ever vs. a player who covers one of several receivers. Give me the offensive player--a better fit for our needs. And Silatolu was not raised on wacky weed and does not have litters of kids all over the southeast.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:40 PM

Lol I wanted Janoris Jenkins over him and was pissed STL got JJ right before we took Amini. My continued inability to evaluate college football talent never ceases to amaze me. From now on, whomever I say we should pick pre-draft, take ANYONE but that guy. I'm batting like .047 lifetime on draft talent evaluations.



Same here, bro!

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:42 PM

Yes, everyone should just listen to me. I posted a mock with Kuechly and Silatolu as our first two picks back in February and got about laughed out of the draft forum.

Good call. Seriously.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:51 PM

I wanted Cox in the 1st just from a needs standpoint, and must admit to a bit of shock when they went guard in the 2nd. That said, I think this definitely has the potential to be our best draft ever. Kuechly looks like a potential all-pro. Silatolu may get a trip to Hawaii even before Luke. Loved the Adams pick, and had wanted the Norman pick since watching him in the Shrine Bowl.

If all these guys pan out, this was an absolute grand slam home run by the front office. My fingers are crossed.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:52 PM

I will give this draft class an A+ for sure. The only complaint I have is the way it played out. Normally you take your DE before your LB. Or the fact that we took a usual late round G in the second. Our third round flier winds up being two potential playmakers... in the fourth round. And what is with this taking your future #2CB, a normal higher pick, in the fifth?

There is no way in hellz they planned it out this way!!!! Or did they?

Normally I would be nervous about 3 rookies starting. But other than Norman, I have not a care. I do have hope for Norman, I just hate having to count on rookie CBs. I know this is not the NFL of my youth. But teams know he is a rookie, and across from an elite CB. He is going to get lots of attention. Good or bad, he is coming to a field near you. I love him for kicking Capt to nickel.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:01 PM

I will give this draft class an A+ for sure. The only complaint I have is the way it played out. Normally you take your DE before your LB. Or the fact that we took a usual late round G in the second. Our third round flier winds up being two potential playmakers... in the fourth round. And what is with this taking your future #2CB, a normal higher pick, in the fifth?

There is no way in hellz they planned it out this way!!!! Or did they?

Normally I would be nervous about 3 rookies starting. But other than Norman, I have not a care. I do have hope for Norman, I just hate having to count on rookie CBs. I know this is not the NFL of my youth. But teams know he is a rookie, and across from an elite CB. He is going to get lots of attention. Good or bad, he is coming to a field near you. I love him for kicking Capt to nickel.


I see your point--good one. Considering where our rookies are starting, take those positions and value them based on need:
CB
G
LB
With the ninth pick, we passed on Stephen Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick, SEC CBs. Hmmm. Instead, we drafted a LB. Is this a bad pick? in four years, I doubt anyone in Charlotte thinks so. Maybe not the biggest need on paper, but I am one who values character and work ethic. Looking back, I realized that the Panthers have decided that giving four year deals to risky players who fill immediate needs is bad business. We got the BEST LB in the draft.

Had SIlatolu not been from a Div II school, he probably would have been rated the #1 G in the draft. Curious pick,with players like Cordy Glenn and Jeff Allen on the board, not to mention Devon Still and Jerel Worthy. However, I am starting to see how this guy can be spercial. Isn't it funny how different the strategy is for a new coach than that of one on the hot seat? We drafted players who will anchor a spot for a decade. No quick fixes, but solid football players with toughness.

Norman in the fifth was a gift.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:19 PM

I see your point--good one. Considering where our rookies are starting, take those positions and value them based on need:
CB
G
LB
With the ninth pick, we passed on Stephen Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick, SEC CBs. Hmmm. Instead, we drafted a LB. Is this a bad pick? in four years, I doubt anyone in Charlotte thinks so. Maybe not the biggest need on paper, but I am one who values character and work ethic. Looking back, I realized that the Panthers have decided that giving four year deals to risky players who fill immediate needs is bad business. We got the BEST LB in the draft.

Had SIlatolu not been from a Div II school, he probably would have been rated the #1 G in the draft. Curious pick,with players like Cordy Glenn and Jeff Allen on the board, not to mention Devon Still and Jerel Worthy. However, I am starting to see how this guy can be spercial. Isn't it funny how different the strategy is for a new coach than that of one on the hot seat? We drafted players who will anchor a spot for a decade. No quick fixes, but solid football players with toughness.

Norman in the fifth was a gift.


Exactly. My brother-in-law wanted to know why we took a DII Guard. At the time, I did not know what I do now. Normally, a guard like that is lucky do be drafted, let alone in the second.

Norman was just one of those local kid makes good thingys. We wanted him, and he was there when we wanted him. That one worked well too.

The only real need, maybe, that we did not address was DT. But other than that. We hit pay dirt big time. Just funny how it all came together.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:32 PM

I've been really loving Amini so far, and most guys on the twitters absolutely love the guy. We found some damn gold in this draft.