Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Blurb on Amini


  • Please log in to reply
60 replies to this topic

#46 MHS831

MHS831

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,033 posts

Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:01 PM

I will give this draft class an A+ for sure. The only complaint I have is the way it played out. Normally you take your DE before your LB. Or the fact that we took a usual late round G in the second. Our third round flier winds up being two potential playmakers... in the fourth round. And what is with this taking your future #2CB, a normal higher pick, in the fifth?

There is no way in hellz they planned it out this way!!!! Or did they?

Normally I would be nervous about 3 rookies starting. But other than Norman, I have not a care. I do have hope for Norman, I just hate having to count on rookie CBs. I know this is not the NFL of my youth. But teams know he is a rookie, and across from an elite CB. He is going to get lots of attention. Good or bad, he is coming to a field near you. I love him for kicking Capt to nickel.


I see your point--good one. Considering where our rookies are starting, take those positions and value them based on need:
CB
G
LB
With the ninth pick, we passed on Stephen Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick, SEC CBs. Hmmm. Instead, we drafted a LB. Is this a bad pick? in four years, I doubt anyone in Charlotte thinks so. Maybe not the biggest need on paper, but I am one who values character and work ethic. Looking back, I realized that the Panthers have decided that giving four year deals to risky players who fill immediate needs is bad business. We got the BEST LB in the draft.

Had SIlatolu not been from a Div II school, he probably would have been rated the #1 G in the draft. Curious pick,with players like Cordy Glenn and Jeff Allen on the board, not to mention Devon Still and Jerel Worthy. However, I am starting to see how this guy can be spercial. Isn't it funny how different the strategy is for a new coach than that of one on the hot seat? We drafted players who will anchor a spot for a decade. No quick fixes, but solid football players with toughness.

Norman in the fifth was a gift.

#47 iamhubby1

iamhubby1

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,549 posts
  • LocationSpartanburg, SC

Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:19 PM

I see your point--good one. Considering where our rookies are starting, take those positions and value them based on need:
CB
G
LB
With the ninth pick, we passed on Stephen Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick, SEC CBs. Hmmm. Instead, we drafted a LB. Is this a bad pick? in four years, I doubt anyone in Charlotte thinks so. Maybe not the biggest need on paper, but I am one who values character and work ethic. Looking back, I realized that the Panthers have decided that giving four year deals to risky players who fill immediate needs is bad business. We got the BEST LB in the draft.

Had SIlatolu not been from a Div II school, he probably would have been rated the #1 G in the draft. Curious pick,with players like Cordy Glenn and Jeff Allen on the board, not to mention Devon Still and Jerel Worthy. However, I am starting to see how this guy can be spercial. Isn't it funny how different the strategy is for a new coach than that of one on the hot seat? We drafted players who will anchor a spot for a decade. No quick fixes, but solid football players with toughness.

Norman in the fifth was a gift.


Exactly. My brother-in-law wanted to know why we took a DII Guard. At the time, I did not know what I do now. Normally, a guard like that is lucky do be drafted, let alone in the second.

Norman was just one of those local kid makes good thingys. We wanted him, and he was there when we wanted him. That one worked well too.

The only real need, maybe, that we did not address was DT. But other than that. We hit pay dirt big time. Just funny how it all came together.

#48 BeasonBeastingBacks

BeasonBeastingBacks

    Farewell Sweet Prince

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,239 posts

Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:32 PM

I've been really loving Amini so far, and most guys on the twitters absolutely love the guy. We found some damn gold in this draft.

#49 Ivan The Awesome

Ivan The Awesome

    That wasn't a Penalty.

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,834 posts
  • LocationNC

Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:42 PM

Wasn't Amini given a 1st round grade?

#50 jtnc

jtnc

    Resident Asshole

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,465 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 02:04 AM

Wasn't Amini given a 1st round grade?

Yeah, he was projected to the Steelers late 1st round....but they landed Decastro who unexpectedly slipped.

#51 Zithers

Zithers

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,026 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 03:02 AM

the 49ers supposedly really liked him. lots of people were mocking him to them. they ended up going with aj jenkins who is rumored to be really awful so far and might not even dress week 1.

#52 Woodcookedbbq

Woodcookedbbq

    Vinegar Based

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,393 posts
  • LocationGreenville, NC

Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:21 AM

I admittedly raised an eyebrow on drafting Amini, but all the doubt was erased when I watched some film on him. He destroyed everybody he went up against and no one could compete with him....no one.

#53 Navy_football

Navy_football

    MEMBER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 791 posts
  • LocationArlington, VA

Posted 25 August 2012 - 05:11 AM

I admittedly raised an eyebrow on drafting Amini, but all the doubt was erased when I watched some film on him. He destroyed everybody he went up against and no one could compete with him....no one.




Exactly... he dominated DII like Dontari Poe SHOULD have dominated Conference USA.

#54 MHS831

MHS831

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,033 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:46 AM

I've been really loving Amini so far, and most guys on the twitters absolutely love the guy. We found some damn gold in this draft.


I agree. He was confused a bit in the first game, less in the second. The holding penalty he got vs Miami (I have not watched it on tape and they did not replay it) was incredible. The play was going to the right--Silatolu plays LEFT guard. He was sealing the middle linebacker. Wharton never gets there--I assure you.

I read somewhere last year that we ran 80% of the time to the left, behind wharton, Kalil, and Gross. Good idea, because Bell and Hangman were rather weak. With a Left Guard who can make every pull block in the book, that will change.

I think that is more important than people realize. I have noticed that DWill seems to have better vision to his right. Cutbacks and long runs have been that direction, if my memory serves me. Adding a better blocking back and a nasty pulling LG to our offense made us so much better. Getting pumped.

#55 MHS831

MHS831

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,033 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:00 AM

The only real need, maybe, that we did not address was DT. But other than that. We hit pay dirt big time. Just funny how it all came together.



I thought the same thing, but how many DTs are hard to draft and take time to mature. The first rounders usually take a few years; people like Dorsey, Ellis, etc. are just hitting their stride and they were first rounders.

You do not throw out the stew before it is done because you are afraid it may not taste good. RR knew we had a veteran run stuffer coming off IR and he knew that we had 4 young, developing DTs. Adding a new young, developing DT would not help us much. Even Kris Jenkins did little to impress his rookie season.

And that forces you to have to cut a developing player. I think RR likes Kearse and Kalil made some comments about how good Fua will be. McClain has shown some signs. Neblett has been decent. Who do you cut?

This is probably Edwards' last season. His contract goes way up next year. I imagine we expect FUA to be ready for prime time by then. I also think we will draft a NT or sign one on the cheap.

DTs are hard to draft for some reason. They have a very high bust rate.

#56 Captain Morgan

Captain Morgan

    Junior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,090 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

I see your point--good one. Considering where our rookies are starting, take those positions and value them based on need:
CB
G
LB
With the ninth pick, we passed on Stephen Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick, SEC CBs. Hmmm. Instead, we drafted a LB. Is this a bad pick? in four years, I doubt anyone in Charlotte thinks so. Maybe not the biggest need on paper, but I am one who values character and work ethic. Looking back, I realized that the Panthers have decided that giving four year deals to risky players who fill immediate needs is bad business. We got the BEST LB in the draft.

Had SIlatolu not been from a Div II school, he probably would have been rated the #1 G in the draft. Curious pick,with players like Cordy Glenn and Jeff Allen on the board, not to mention Devon Still and Jerel Worthy. However, I am starting to see how this guy can be spercial. Isn't it funny how different the strategy is for a new coach than that of one on the hot seat? We drafted players who will anchor a spot for a decade. No quick fixes, but solid football players with toughness.

Norman in the fifth was a gift.




Man you nailed it...Hurney must believe in in RR...because with Keeks and Amini, those
positions are set for the next decade, barring injury. Must have been tempting to go after
a flashy player like WR or CB, but we filled 2 positions with home run players. Nice to know that RR is building a real team, not a "we must win this year" team regardless of what it costs.

If Norman can start after being a 5th rounder (he was projected higher, iirc)....man what a draft.

#57 rayzor

rayzor

    shula is who i thought he was.

  • Moderators
  • -29,424 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:45 AM

I thought the same thing, but how many DTs are hard to draft and take time to mature. The first rounders usually take a few years; people like Dorsey, Ellis, etc. are just hitting their stride and they were first rounders.

You do not throw out the stew before it is done because you are afraid it may not taste good. RR knew we had a veteran run stuffer coming off IR and he knew that we had 4 young, developing DTs. Adding a new young, developing DT would not help us much. Even Kris Jenkins did little to impress his rookie season.

And that forces you to have to cut a developing player. I think RR likes Kearse and Kalil made some comments about how good Fua will be. McClain has shown some signs. Neblett has been decent. Who do you cut?

This is probably Edwards' last season. His contract goes way up next year. I imagine we expect FUA to be ready for prime time by then. I also think we will draft a NT or sign one on the cheap.

DTs are hard to draft for some reason. They have a very high bust rate.

i'm not a fan of drafting DTs that you expect to start...even in the first round. they have way too high a bust rate and they take too long to develop, imo.

this is one area i think we'd be better off going FA or even trading for one.

this is a huge need, tho, and one that i actually wanted us to address in the first round or two just based on need but i'm glad we didn't because i don't think it would have paid off anywhere close to the way kuechly will.

#58 MHS831

MHS831

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,033 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 01:37 PM

i'm not a fan of drafting DTs that you expect to start...even in the first round. they have way too high a bust rate and they take too long to develop, imo.

this is one area i think we'd be better off going FA or even trading for one.

this is a huge need, tho, and one that i actually wanted us to address in the first round or two just based on need but i'm glad we didn't because i don't think it would have paid off anywhere close to the way kuechly will.


I do not know where DTs come from, they just appear. I agree 100%. I think it is a huge need (or question mark), but if we get 2 of our 4 young guys to step up---and hey, I am not going to second guess Rivera after our last 2 drafts. He sees something in our young DTs or we would have gone after a few. I think we will address DT after cuts or through a trade if McClain and Fua are not there yet.

One good thing about our team is this--our offense will be improved (Cam improved, Lafell, Tolbert) because we know the system better. We are going to score. Our defense is also improved. I think we should be playing with the lead more often, taking pressure off the DTs to stop the run.

#59 jarhead

jarhead

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,621 posts
  • Locationnear Charlotte

Posted 25 August 2012 - 01:42 PM

How did Tenn get lucky?

#60 Captain Morgan

Captain Morgan

    Junior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,090 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 01:49 PM

I do not know where DTs come from, they just appear. I agree 100%. I think it is a huge need (or question mark), but if we get 2 of our 4 young guys to step up---and hey, I am not going to second guess Rivera after our last 2 drafts. He sees something in our young DTs or we would have gone after a few. I think we will address DT after cuts or through a trade if McClain and Fua are not there yet.

One good thing about our team is this--our offense will be improved (Cam improved, Lafell, Tolbert) because we know the system better. We are going to score. Our defense is also improved. I think we should be playing with the lead more often, taking pressure off the DTs to stop the run.



Teams will have to throw against us as our O racks up points fast. Hope our secondary can
stand the strain that used to be on our D-line.


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Shop at Amazon Contact Us: info@carolinahuddle.com