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Report: Govt Hostile Towards Christians

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No one is being persecuted. It's just another example of the "ruling class" getting butthurt because their control over the world is slipping away. No one likes giving up power...just look at these whiny conservatives. Christians need to concentrate less on condemning and more on living like their actual Savior....

But if you think Christians are the sole proprietors of thinking they know everything and pushing their views on others then you've never read the Tinderbox.

Panthro,

The Tinderbox is the safe zone for "Heated Debate" right or wrong I enjoy the convos there..and different viewpoints.

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I never said it wasn't. Most times you don't even have to be that civil.

As an aside...I agree a lot with atheists and Christians could actually learn a lot from them and other religions.

You also wont see me telling an atheist they are wrong, a Jew they are wrong, a Muslim they are wrong, or a Christian they are wrong until those beliefs begin to infringe upon the rights of others.

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'bout damned time.

Its kind of like one of those make-up penalties you see from time to time. You know, when there is a phantom PI call and a few minutes later a ticky-tack unsportsmanlike conduct? Its like that only on a national level.

Christians have enjoyed an unassailable position in this country for so long that now that we have to play by the same rules as everyone else we feel like we are being persecuted.

I say we simply because I consider myself a Christian, not because I feel persecuted.

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Let the Microchip implants begin!

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IMO it'd be whatever sect(s) are solely focused on living out the teachings of jesus

which is like .00001% sadly

but considering the fact that there is a 2,000 year old barrier between now and jesus-time, with the religious text being altered overtly and through translation, doesn't that just open the door to a bunch of no true scotsman bullshit?

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Christians have enjoyed an unassailable position in this country for so long that now that we have to play by the same rules as everyone else we feel like we are being persecuted.

but...my privilege :( :( :( :(

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but considering the fact that there is a 2,000 year old barrier between now and jesus-time, with the religious text being altered overtly and through translation, doesn't that just open the door to a bunch of no true scotsman bullshit?

absolutely, this is why i have become increasing disenchanted with the supposed importance of theology in matters of interpretation. it's full of flaws and has a pretty shitty historical record of being completely wrong, resisting change, and then finally changing a position after it's considered egregiously unacceptable in civilized society.

you don't see it much in the south but there's a pretty significant christian subculture (most of them don't even like to be identified under that word) that believe in the existence of a god and the historical veracity of jesus the historical figure but recognize the inherent flaws in a lot of the literalist approaches to interpretation and tend to take the approach of simply living out the couple of things that jesus actually seemed to think was important (according to the texts) like taking care of the poor and it being a major problem if you have something and your brother doesnt (lol republicans.)

my views on these things evolve constantly as i process new data, but this is pretty close to where i am right now personally.

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