Go Topless Day: Is America Ready For Topless Sunbathing?

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER 4,355]

It's not so much a matter of interpretation as it is how it reads at face value. If you didn't mean it to read that way, you should have clarified it or not posted it at all. You didn't do that. You're just saying, "that's not what I said at all!". It literally reads as follows: "a downside to this would be having to see boobs that boob-lovers may not necessarily enjoy seeing. You have to take the good with the bad." That comes off as misogynistic. I'm not saying you are. I am saying that that is precisely how it reads and those words were YOUR words. So, the honorable thing to do would be to say, "I worded that badly. What I meant was....", if you indeed meant it another way.

The big deal here is that it is irrelevant for you to have mentioned that. That's what makes it look bad.

but then he would have to admit that HE made a mistake so lol good luck with that

[Darth Biscuit 12,398]

It's not so much a matter of interpretation as it is how it reads at face value. If you didn't mean it to read that way, you should have clarified it or not posted it at all. You didn't do that. You're just saying, "that's not what I said at all!". It literally reads as follows: "a downside to this would be having to see boobs that boob-lovers may not necessarily enjoy seeing. You have to take the good with the bad." That comes off as misogynistic. I'm not saying you are. I am saying that that is precisely how it reads and those words were YOUR words. So, the honorable thing to do would be to say, "I worded that badly. What I meant was....", if you indeed meant it another way.

The big deal here is that it is irrelevant for you to have mentioned that. That's what makes it look bad.

See, I have no problem discussing a reasonable post like this ^.

When the first reply to my post is this...

sort of like how when women go to the beach they have to deal with the fact that many men are short and fat...so they gotta take the bad with the good

seriously dude women don't want to go topless at the beach for your entertainment and poo like this is actually pretty disgusting but i'm sure you're totally oblivious to how fuging creepy you come across

...it makes it quite difficult to have any meaningful discussion.

whether or not women have nice breasts has no business being a part of a discussion on equality. that's what you're having trouble understanding. if you consider seeing breasts (specifically, in your own words, a majority of them) to be a "downside" to topless beaches, that is in fact misogyny

I disagree that my opinion of what is essentially the ramifications of changing the law in regards to what would amount to partial public nudity has "no business in a discussion of equality".

He posted...

my only concern is that i'm not sure that every dude would be able to act appropriately

see: every regular contributor in the lovely ladies section

My statement is similar to this in the vein of what peoples reactions to it would be. Some people would consider partial nudity of what they consider unattractive people to be offensive... they are entitled to their opinion... doesn't change the fact that if women want to go topless, they should be allowed to. Sure, I'll concede I could have worded it differently, but it doesn't change my sentiment.

I certainly wasn't espousing, as Cantrell was accusing me of, that only "hot women" should be allowed to go topless... not at all what I said and I've stated that repeatedly. He just can't get it thru his head to stop repeating things over and over.

[MCP 111]

that's not the argument and i can't tell if you're being dumb or disingenuous so if you could just clear that up for me that would be ever so helpful

the argument is whether or not it belongs in the discussion. full stop.

if you think this is relevant in a discussion on equality, you might be a pig

This is what you said, and this is what I responded to. If you now want to change your story, that is fine with me.

.. whether or not women should be able to take their tops off at the beach has absolutely fuging nothing to do with how attractive their breasts are you weird, weird man

Again, he never said it shouldn't be allowed. He said he can see a dodwn side. Sorry if you didn't get the memo about people being allwed to have their own opinions on things.

You really need to work your way out of the name calling as well, it just makes you look so juvenile.

[Darth Biscuit 12,398]

PS - Just so that you don't forget about this Mr Change the subject...

see what's funny is that we've seen pictures of you. you look like poo and you had no business trying to go internet tough guy on me in the first place. now you're playing the victim because you're a conservative and that's what conservatives do.

however, you are literally making things up about me now. you're projecting. again.

btw, you didn't say this?:

that would be a very piggish thing to say. good thing you didn't say it, right?

This was my original quote that you keep bringing up... and funny, can't seem to "quote" me on...

As a side note... you really seem to have a personal issue with me in particular. I'm not really sure why... I have a suggestion and I'm being completely serious. I believe that you said one time that you actually live in Wilmington. Any day that I'm available (which is generally most days but I am kind of busy this week) , post it on here, send me a PM and we'll meet somewhere and I'll buy you lunch and you can tell me in person how I'm so wrong about all this stuff. It's not a threat, or anything like that... I would love to meet you in person and see if the attitude you project on this forum is how you act in real life. I'll buy your lunch and buy you a beer and you can tell me how stupid I am. How about it? You never know, you may actually like me in person.

...and here is the post...

Wow, what a horrible threat I made... inviting you out for a beer and lunch...

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds... LITERALLY.

[Chimera 3,436]

The problem is that most of the people who do go topless are girls that no one wants to see.

Have you ever seen how guys act around attractive women? Yeah, that's why.

gospodin shuttlesworth has a point - many men can't and won't act appropriately.

[SmootsDaddy89 1,951]

Literally none of the men who come to those topless things care about the issue they just want to see tits. It's pretty sad, really.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER 4,355]

Have you ever seen how guys act around attractive women? Yeah, that's why.

gospodin shuttlesworth has a point - many men can't and won't act appropriately.

we don't agree on a lot but i like that your default position isn't "the opposite of what mr shuttlesworth says"

[SmootsDaddy89 1,951]

Like it's literally if you took the civil rights movement and all the white people who came out in support of equal rights really just wanted to see black people getting hosed because they think it's hilarious. That's the only way I know how to relate how pathetic it is.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER 4,355]

This is what you said, and this is what I responded to. If you now want to change your story, that is fine with me.

Again, he never said it shouldn't be allowed. He said he can see a dodwn side. Sorry if you didn't get the memo about people being allwed to have their own opinions on things.

You really need to work your way out of the name calling as well, it just makes you look so juvenile.

i haven't changed my "story" at all. no matter the position he supports, the comment he made is misogynistic. sort of like if i said "the downside to integrated schools is that i had to see black people every day, but i support integrated schools so i'm not racist"

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER 4,355]

I certainly wasn't espousing, as Cantrell was accusing me of, that only "hot women" should be allowed to go topless... not at all what I said and I've stated that repeatedly. He just can't get it thru his head to stop repeating things over and over.

that was never, ever my argument and you are embarrassing yourself right now