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Norman Vs. Munnerlyn

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Captain Munnerlyn@captain_41

My body hurts I need a massage lol in (my grandma voice)

Casey Beaman@BeamanDJ

You've gotta be sore considering how often that rookie beat you last night #Panthers RT @captain_41 My body hurts I need a massage

Captain Munnerlyn@captain_41

@BeamanDJ lol if u say so

Was that you? Cause I agree with Proudiddy there...I mean yeah he did suck it up but you don't necessarily need to say it to him over twitter. He's still a Panther and that's enough for me to say that he should have the respect of the fanbase. He doesn't need us knocking his confidence.

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i think we're going to be in nickel packages most of the time. who starts is only a formality. they'll likely be seeing about the same amount of time. norman will be more effective, tho.

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Norman will most likely get better... Captain, if he hasn't by now, will not by virtue of size alone, which is sad in part due to his heart he gives out there. I like the guy, and admire his spirit, but that doesn't cut it in the end when getting torched by taller receivers. I'm all for starting the rook at #2 and letting him go through growing pains, provided they find something to help him in the safety spot.

I'm also hoping Hogan can come in next year, after the IR, and win the Nickel spot to give us three bigger corners, which is what's presently needed in this league. Move Captain to ST gunner, a la Hankton, and let him shine there. He had some good tackles last night, and if all he had to concentrate on was coverage, I think he'd excel. But as the second corner, he'll eventually play himself out of the league imo.

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Was that you? Cause I agree with Proudiddy there...I mean yeah he did suck it up but you don't necessarily need to say it to him over twitter. He's still a Panther and that's enough for me to say that he should have the respect of the fanbase. He doesn't need us knocking his confidence.

Yeah, you're right. I regretted it as soon as he responded. I wrote it as I was joking around with a friend. Felt embarrassed when I saw he had read it. Guess I never considered that they really read tweets.

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Sadly, I have more confidence in Norman, Butler, Stanford and Thomas than I do in Captain.

Just don't think he has the size, skill or football smarts to be an effective CB.

And yes, I know he's a smart guy, but he doesn't play smart.

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Norman over Capt.

Norman is better suited as the no.2 and Capt as the nickle.

Even though Norman is struggling like how a rookie should be, he has great size. I think Norman just need to play more games so he'll be comfortable. Once he adjust to the speed of the game, that swag of his will be there. Games aint like practices.

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Statistically Cap was one of the worst DBs in the league last year. He shouldn't EVER take the field. And neither should Fua...

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Capt was a lot better his rookie season then he is now. To say he regressed is to put it nicely. He obviously does not put a lot of time in film study cause he seems to get beat again and again. He would have been a avg CB 10 years ago but now you have to be smart not physical.

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norman as a fifth-round rookie at the same level as our starting veteran?

norman has far more upside, and captain has already reached his ceiling. i don't think there's too much of a question here.

Agreed. I can live with a rookie out there making mistakes. What I can't live with is watching the likes of Mike Williams, Julio Jones, and Devry Henderson continue to catch jump balls over Munnerlyn.

I want Munnerlyn in the slot to take away the smaller speed guys.

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Capt is just too big of a liability out there as the #2 CB. If we spend two seasons in a row with him as the starter, it has to be viewed as a serious failure by the front office. Coupled with our mediocre pass rush, I can't imagine our defense becoming anything more than below-average until we fix one of these two major holes. While that's an improvement from last season, it seems that we are at least a year or two away from competing at the level we want to.

Norman looks nice for a 5th rounder and should get a shot, but it's a lot to ask him to play at a high level as a rookie. After falling for the hype on here over guys like Hogan and Butler, I'm not going to expect anything until I see him in a real game.

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This has nothing to do with Sunday night. There's more evidence than just Sunday night to back this up.

Munnerlyn does well in the slot because of his physical nature. I am not sure it has anything to do with the types of receivers he faces. I think it has more to do with where Captain is placed on the field. He can get his hands on them and direct them in a way that benefits him and the defense. With him out on the outside, where he is more isolated, he has trouble covering the receiver when his physical tactics don't work. He just isn't that good of a cover corner. I do think he is a good tackler, good on special teams, and better suited for slot. I also think he does well in the slot because we can use him on blitzes where he seems to do a good job (also takes him out of coverage).

Norman is just the better cover corner. He is around the ball more and with his lankiness he can defend passes a whole lot better. He also has a great attitude when it comes to play CB. He has a swagger that he won't be beat. Even if he does get beat on occasion, I like his confidence.

I think the answer is simple, it has to be Norman.

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