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#16 csx

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:21 AM

we still don't have a good punt returner and still have shitty special teams all the way around

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:22 AM

You can think this through... I know you can. Really try.


i dunno, are you implying Adams is going to be able to fix the dropping problem he's had forever in a matter of weeks? doesnt really sound logical, like I said he isn't learning how to catch punts right now. he's done it forever

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:23 AM

You are right, Joe Adams can catch open passes in the slot....and has already shown to be a shifter player. I think Joe Adams will prevent AE from a roster spot after some reflection. What does AE bring to the table Joe doesn't already offer?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:27 AM

Sure about that CRA? I'm not sure what people saw in Adams that makes them his something great. He looks small, and had more 4 yard punt returns than anything else.. Looks like Armanti his first year... I'm just being objective.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:29 AM

dropping problem he's had forever


You are trying to hard.

lol

You don't get named the best returner in college football if you have a dropping problem.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:34 AM

Catching the ball in tight coverage. Anytime he has to fight for the ball because a DB is right on him he loses. If its a quick throw and he has room, he looks decent.

The problem here is he is not especially fast and doesn't run overly impressive routes. When playing against first string DBs, he may not be open much.

I would rather give his snaps to Joe Adams who may turn out to be a legitimate threat at WR.

agreed on all...esp. the joe adams part. i'd rather see joe adams getting snaps over pilares as well.

#22 csx

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:37 AM

You are trying to hard.

lol

You don't get named the best returner in college football if you have a dropping problem.



Pretty much every draft profile of him mentions that he has a problem with drops and can't make catches in traffic.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:38 AM

You are trying to hard.

lol

You don't get named the best returner in college football if you have a dropping problem.


uhh his dropping problem (passes and punts) is well established lol. i thought you were knowledgeable

thats another problem for him in the pros. The return yards are much harder to come by but the drops remain. like i said, i dont trust him at all in a high pressure punt situation. Armanti didn't lose a punt all season last year (in real games!) id much rather have Adams returning kickoffs where his muffs wont be a big deal and he can still showcase his playmaking. Armanti might not get jack **** for yards but muffed punt turnovers are about as deflating for a team as you can get, and Adams has a big problem there. thats just a fact.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:40 AM

uhh his dropping problem (passes and punts) is well established lol. i thought you were knowledgeable



Passes yes, just like Lafell. That problem is fixable.

Haven't seen him dropping punts mentioned.

Derp.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:40 AM

You are trying to hard.

lol

You don't get named the best returner in college football if you have a dropping problem.



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Weaknesses: Adams has fumbled a little bit too much lately – Could add a few more pounds, especially in the upperbody to protect himself from the physical NFL game, but don’t want to risk his speed – Would like to see him refine his route running a little bit more, especially if he is going to be playing in a precision passing system.


Hands: Another suspect area of Adams’ game are his hands. He seeming has concentration lapses, attempting to take off and run, before properly securing the football. His 2011 Sugar Bowl performance against Ohio State highlights several instances of his consistent inconsistency when it comes to catching the football. This is another reason I listed Shumer’s offense as a great fit for Adams, as it will allow him to turn back to the QB on screens and simply wait for the ball before creating in space, rather than forcing him into situations where he’s having to keep his head on a swivel over the middle of the field while concentrating on the catch.


Negatives -- Undersized, is one of the smaller receivers in this draft and can get overpowered by larger corners... Ran slower than expected at the combine... Never was a prolific receiver at Arkansas, never had a 1,000 yard season and only scored three touchdowns as a senior... Seemed to disappear in big games, did not record a catch against Texas A&M, had three catches against LSU, and five catches for 22 yards in the Cotton Bowl... Size is an issue when asked to run block, has a hard time engaging... Has some ball security issues.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:41 AM

his first move is pretty quick but he doesn't really have the burst or top end speed to get away from NFL DBs.

really if gettis was healthy right now edwards might have been gone after the first round of cuts.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:44 AM

P.S. I went to ASU and I do not think Armanti should make this team. We need a better returner than either of these guys.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:44 AM

A couple of you guys are still acting like Armanti is in his first year ever as a WR. It is perplexing.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:45 AM

Sure about that CRA? I'm not sure what people saw in Adams that makes them his something great. He looks small, and had more 4 yard punt returns than anything else.. Looks like Armanti his first year... I'm just being objective.

That wasn't a declaration Joe Adams is currently the shiznit. Just that what does AE give you Adams doesn't?

He is small....but he is much shifter, quicker, and more eager to make something out of nothing than Edwards. How is saying he looks like a rookie version of Edwards being objective? Joe Adams has already shown more potential at PR then we have seen in a LONG time

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:45 AM

P.S. I went to ASU and I do not think Armanti should make this team. We need a better returner than either of these guys.



We need a better prospect than college football's best returner.

I think maybe your standards are too high.


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