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#46 TANTRIC-NINJA

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:40 PM

With qbs Kafka and Hoyer..it makes no sense to keep Clausen..

As with AE...Bryant and Green outplayed him in one preseason game that Armanti got a ton of reps in.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:40 PM

Chud's offense got him fired with DA in Cleveland. We are good because of Cam and the run or threat to run. And I am a Chud fan.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:42 PM

Yeah because a lot of our offense is not based on the QB on designed runs or the option to run. 700 yards and 14 rushing TDs and countless options where he didn't run. A lot of our offensive success.

Vertical pass sets up and that stuff for Cam as well. With Anderson it would setup the RBs more.

Clausen didn't fit Fox's either. Imploded it. Would implode Chud's as well.



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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:43 PM

i laugh at people who thought Armanti was gonna get cut.

DeAndre Presley did though. Bring em on

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:43 PM

If our 3rd string QB is in no matter who he is I think the season is fugged.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:44 PM

Chud's offense got him fired with DA in Cleveland. We are good because of Cam and the run or threat to run. And I am a Chud fan.


Anderson was a pro bowler as well....DA just played poorly year 2. Quinn didn't fit. Once you are forced to go with a QB who doesn't fit.....it's over. No chance.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:45 PM

Armanti is just better than the guys that they cut - face it.






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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:46 PM

Not THE reason...but potentially a reason.

I think Hurney takes great pride in being able to boast the Panthers have more drafted players on their roster than team X. Yeah, team X may win more games...but it is something Carolina has hung their hat on and bragged about to a degree in recent years.


Here's an idea... Sometimes, there doesn't need to be an opinion or feel good reason. Sometimes, the coaching staff makes decisions based off of information that NONE of us have... To include Zod, and he's waaaay closer to the team than anybody is here. Hell, I'm sure he has all kinds of good info that he keeps to himself... And this right here is a prime example. People try to rationalize things to make themselves feel better about a particular situation... Nothing wrong with it at all, it's human nature. It's just that sometimes, you dont need to rationalize or understand it. It's beyond your control! Either you're a fan or you're not. All this fair weather BS is what annoys me about my own damned fan base.

The Organization made some decisions today... Maybe they were easy, and maybe they weren't. Maybe they'll even have some regrets... But maybe they won't! I love this team, whether we're 1-15, 2-14, 6-10... Or whatever we'll be this year. I'm tired of people moaning and bitching about personnel decisions.

This team's moving forward... With or without the bandwagoners or anybody else who would prefer to second guess any decision they make. Trust this staff. They made 1 mistake with Mare in their tenure... And have since rectified it. Get with the program people.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:47 PM

The Air Coryell is well and good and we have a lot of elements of it no doubt, but you look at San Diego last year and you look at us last year... especially at the end of the year when JStew and DWill got better at the option stuff and our offense was drastically different. And we were winning more.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:47 PM

Seriously, what offense would Clausen fit. The "Lets get the number one pick in the draft offense."?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:06 PM

Armanti is here for 2 reasons:

1) We didn't have a better option on the roster at WR
2) I suspect they do not yet have total faith in Adams as a returner. Armanti is their security blanket.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:08 PM

Armanti was statistically the worst PR in the NFL last year. I really hope #2 isn't really a reason. I think it has more to do with the fact he got lucky (Gettis on PUP), he beat out UFAs for the job (Tutu, Green, Bryant), and will be really lucky to finish the year on the team (once Gettis comes back).

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:11 PM

Munnerlyn is a better option as backup PR. He got 10 yards an average when he did it. AE had one of the worst averages in the history of the game.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:12 PM

Seriously, what offense would Clausen fit.  The "Lets get the number one pick in the draft offense."?


In many ways, that was exactly the offense we needed for one season and one season only.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:30 PM

Ok. Then why are they here? Why have other hung around painfully longer than most teams generally allow?

You don't believe a guy who drafts players would like to boast about his roster being largely made up of guys he drafted? Sure does sound like he is a good drafter compared to everyone else.


Ellison was cut after 1 season(3rd round pick)

Carolina Panthers

Ellison was drafted by the Carolina Panthers in the third round (89th overall) of the 2005 NFL Draft. He was waived by Carolina during final cuts on September 3, 2005, and re-signed to their practice squad two days later. On September 14, 2005, he was promoted to the 53-man roster, but was waived again on September 24, 2005. He returned to the practice squad on September 27, 2005, and was elevated to the active roster again on October 31, 2005, where he spent the remainder of the season as an inactive. He was waived by the Panthers on September 2, 2006.

http://en.wikipedia....Atiyyah_Ellison

Everette Brown was cut after 2 seasons(traded a 1st for him)

Carolina Panthers

Originally projected a first-round draft pick, Brown saw his draft stock falling because of questions about his size.[5] He was picked 43rd overall in the second round by the Panthers, who traded their 2010 NFL Draft first-round pick to the San Francisco 49ers to get that pick.[6]
With Julius Peppers still demanding a trade, Brown was shifted to the right side defensive end spot in June 2009.[7] In his first NFL season, Brown recorded 22 total tackles (15 solo), 2.5 sacks and 2 forced fumbles.
On September 4, 2011, Brown was waived by Carolina after recording 6 sacks in two seasons.


http://en.wikipedia..../Everette_Brown


I'm not doing any more wiki's but Norwood was a 4th round pick in 2010 and now gone after 2 years.
Rashard Butler 3rd round pick cut after 1 year.
Eric Shelton a 2nd round pick was cut after 2 years.
Corvey Irvin 3rd round pick cut after 1-2 years

No other top 4 round pick aside from Colbert or Jarrett were held on for too long.

Theres plenty more late round picks who were cut after 1 or 2 years. Clausen and Edwards are barely hanging onto the final spot on the depth chart at their respective positions are only in year 2 with Rivera.

In summary as you can Hurney is not afraid to admit failure in his drafts and will cut his losses after 2 years maximum in all cases not including Edwards and Clausen. They will likely be cut after their 3rd year or show improvement one.


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