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#61 fieryprophet

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:45 PM

1 year(3rd round pick)


http://en.wikipedia....Atiyyah_Ellison

after 2 years(traded a 1st for him)



http://en.wikipedia..../Everette_Brown


I'm not doing any more wiki's but Norwood was a 4th round pick in 2010 and now gone after 2 years.
Rashard Butler 3rd round pick cut after 1 year.
Eric Shelton a 2nd round pick was cut after 2 years.
Corvey Irvin 3rd round pick cut after 1-2 years

No other top 4 round pick aside from Colbert or Jarrett were held on for too long.

Theres plenty more late round picks who were cut after 1 or 2 years. Clausen and Edwards are barely hanging onto the final spot on the depth chart at their respective positions are only in year 2 with Rivera.

In summary as you can Hurney is not afraid to admit failure in his drafts and will cut his losses after 2 years maximum in all cases not including Edwards and Clausen. They will likely be cut after their 3rd year or show improvement one.


How dare you bring logic into this thread!

#62 Ken

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:53 PM

On AE: Someone has to be cut for Gettis so.....

On The Jimmy: He has never caused a problem and gets along with the Cam & DA.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:57 PM

I told my co-worker Thursday night "Tomorrow is going to be a good day, Pickles and Edwards will be gone!" all I have to say today is WTF!

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:14 AM

Armanti was statistically the worst PR in the NFL last year. I really hope #2 isn't really a reason. I think it has more to do with the fact he got lucky (Gettis on PUP), he beat out UFAs for the job (Tutu, Green, Bryant), and will be really lucky to finish the year on the team (once Gettis comes back).

Munnerlyn is a better option as backup PR. He got 10 yards an average when he did it. AE had one of the worst averages in the history of the game.


I fully understand that Armanti sucked at PR last year, but what he didn't do is turn the ball over. Adams has a bit of a reputation in that regard. Munnerlyn hasn't been working at PR recently, and he has some fumbles in his history as well.

Think of the worst case...Adams fumbles in a couple of games and costs us a win or two. People will be screaming for the relative safety of a 5 yard Armanti return.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 01:27 AM

Something tells me that a GM wouldn't put their job at risk by trying to get an ego boost from a trivia statistic.

#66 skarbar001

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 01:54 AM

AE will be inactive on game day, he should have been cut.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:06 AM

Here's an idea... Sometimes, there doesn't need to be an opinion or feel good reason. Sometimes, the coaching staff makes decisions based off of information that NONE of us have... To include Zod, and he's waaaay closer to the team than anybody is here. Hell, I'm sure he has all kinds of good info that he keeps to himself... And this right here is a prime example. People try to rationalize things to make themselves feel better about a particular situation... Nothing wrong with it at all, it's human nature. It's just that sometimes, you dont need to rationalize or understand it. It's beyond your control! Either you're a fan or you're not. All this fair weather BS is what annoys me about my own damned fan base.

The Organization made some decisions today... Maybe they were easy, and maybe they weren't. Maybe they'll even have some regrets... But maybe they won't! I love this team, whether we're 1-15, 2-14, 6-10... Or whatever we'll be this year. I'm tired of people moaning and bitching about personnel decisions.

This team's moving forward... With or without the bandwagoners or anybody else who would prefer to second guess any decision they make. Trust this staff. They made 1 mistake with Mare in their tenure... And have since rectified it. Get with the program people.



If you truly believe that then you are not as big of fan you say you are or just don't understand football in general.....

Good day sir



P.S.-----Step off zod's junk brah

#68 Jrock88

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:38 AM

wasted roster spots really , but we have 2 high draft picks invested in these guys

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:49 AM

We have Clausen because resorting to your #3 QB is very rare in the NFL, so there really isn't a reason for us to go searching for another one.

We have Armanti because he's a good athlete that earns a low-depth chart roster spot.

No other reason, really.

No, I didn't read any of this thread past the OP, what of it?

#70 Panthro

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 06:26 AM

The reason they are on the team is because individuals FAR smarter than anyone here thinks they should be. Period. No one here would ever even remotely have a chance to be a GM or HC. Everything this FO does is right compared to the viewpoints on this sitre because those individuals making the decesions are better than any one here. Not a hard concept to grasp.


And on the third day Marty Hurney rose from the grave

#71 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 08:15 AM

Could we pick up a #5 receiver or a third string qb who would be a improvement over either? We are talking about two who, if they get to play any considerable minutes, then its because of injuries, and we are probably in a great deal of trouble anyway (and would be with any other players who might be picked up). So basically, it doesn't really matter.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 08:47 AM

I see what you're saying. But it seems more Hurney doesn't want to admit his mistake rather than boasting to keeping draft picks...

except he's done plenty to admit other mistakes...as pointed out in another thread.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 09:23 AM

My question is what is the point of having a 53 man roster if you can't dress them all on gameday. Definitely the dumbest rule in the NFL.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 09:32 AM

Ok. Then why are they here? Why have other hung around painfully longer than most teams generally allow?

You don't believe a guy who drafts players would like to boast about his roster being largely made up of guys he drafted? Sure does sound like he is a good drafter compared to everyone else.

Why do people care so much who we carry as the number 3 QB? They shouldn't.

Most if you hate Jimmy so much that you wanted him banished from Charloite. That is letting your emotions dictate everything, rather than see the obvious.

1. Knows the play book
2. Is dirt cheap
3. QB training and fm room has great chemistry...why fug with that?

Let that hate go for this guy who won't even dress and accept him being here for what it really is....an irrelevant non-event.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 10:06 AM

My question is what is the point of having a 53 man roster if you can't dress them all on gameday. Definitely the dumbest rule in the NFL.


Agreed, it does seem like a useless rule. But maybe the extra players are to give a team more people to practice with, and to give the coaches more roster options, ie if he wants more linemen against one team, and more receivers against another.


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