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How Big Of A Disadvantage Is It To Play A 'New' Head Coach In The Season Opener?


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#37 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:59 AM

If anything TB should be fearing us. If people think Chud is going to be complacent and not have a bunch of new wrinkles then they are fooling themselves. We have 3 dangerous WRs in Smith,LaFell, and Murphy and a stable of backs that can slash a team to death. Add Cam to all this and Im not worried about a rebuilding Bucs team at all.


Didn't even mention Olsen.

Damn, this should be fun.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:25 PM

Didn't even mention Olsen.

Damn, this should be fun.



Yea I remembered him after I made the post but thats just insult to injury for the Buc's. We have match up problems all over the field on offense and they have a rookie coach and CB.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:42 PM

Havent kept up with bucs really, Are the Offense and defense coordinator from the pro's or college. If you dont have tape on Schiano check them out. Most new coaches rely heaaaavily on coordinators. Also we have had the bucs number for years now.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:51 PM

Havent kept up with bucs really, Are the Offense and defense coordinator from the pro's or college. If you dont have tape on Schiano check them out. Most new coaches rely heaaaavily on coordinators. Also we have had the bucs number for years now.



Tampa has the largest coaching staff in the NFL(21) chopped full with veteran NFL coaches like.

Mike Sullivan
Jimmy Raye
Ron Turner
Earnest Byner is the runningbacks coach, always liked him.
Bill Sheridan
Bryan Cox

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:15 PM

Tampa has the largest coaching staff in the NFL(21) chopped full with veteran NFL coaches like.

Mike Sullivan
Jimmy Raye
Ron Turner
Earnest Byner is the runningbacks coach, always liked him.
Bill Sheridan
Bryan Cox



Interestingly, their OC actually has no prior coordinator experience. Both Raye and Turner who are position coaches actually have more experience by far. Combined they might have a clue.

Sheridan was the DC for the Giants in 2009. Make you concerned he will make the Bucs a juggernaut? Only until you remember he was fired after 1 year after the Giants gave up the second most points in their franchise history and they gave up 40 points or more 5 times that year.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:25 PM

Interestingly, their OC actually has no prior coordinator experience. Both Raye and Turner who are position coaches actually have more experience by far. Combined they might have a clue.

Sheridan was the DC for the Giants in 2009. Make you concerned he will make the Bucs a juggernaut? Only until you remember he was fired after 1 year after the Giants gave up the second most points in their franchise history and they gave up 40 points or more 5 times that year.

yep...they almost have all the makings of a dream team college coaching staff.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:31 PM

Sheridan was the DC for the Giants in 2009. Make you concerned he will make the Bucs a juggernaut? Only until you remember he was fired after 1 year after the Giants gave up the second most points in their franchise history and they gave up 40 points or more 5 times that year.


True but i think Greg will have a big hand in the defense. It is his background.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:48 PM

our coaches first game records are 1-3 so not sure if there is a disadvantage in that alone

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:53 PM

yep...they almost have all the makings of a dream team college coaching staff.

Don't forget Butch Davis who can't be on our roster due to contractual demands with the tarheels.

Schiano is the head coach who manages the team. We have veteran coordinators, including OC Sullivan who coached Eli Manning for the last 4 yrs, who call the plays on sundays.

Alot of you who say it's not an advantage will be the same ones saying the oppisite if the Bucs win.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:54 PM

schiano is no harbaugh.
harbaugh was by far he exception to the rule that college level coaches fail as coaches in the NFL. why did he succeed? one word.......experience. he had it on the pro level as a player and as a coach(albeit in a limited capacity in that regard).


There also is no comparison between the quality of the 49er's roster when Harbaugh took over vs the Bucs roster.

The Bucs offseason acquisitions were good, but San Fran was loaded for Harbaugh.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:55 PM

True but i think Greg will have a big hand in the defense. It is his background.


Problem for them is that Schiano has little to no experience as a DC at the NFL level. That was Miami in 1999-2000. Miami was pretty good that year but the question is how much of his experience over a decade ago still applies to what works 12 years later. Given how offenses have changed in the past decade, will his experience still suffice? Even all his accolades at Rutgers was in 2006 almost 6 years ago. While his throwback reputation sounds good, throwback in the NFL is synonymous with dinosaur. He reminds me of a guy like Lou Holtz, good in college but outmatched in the pro ranks.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:56 PM

There also is no comparison between the quality of the 49er's roster when Harbaugh took over vs the Bucs roster.

The Bucs offseason acquisitions were good, but San Fran was loaded for Harbaugh.



On the defensive side of the ball yes.