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[quote][color=#000000][font=Calibri,]Last summer, a drunk Arizona police officer named Robb Gary Evans drove himself to a bar, flashed his badge to avoid paying cover at the door, and then walked up behind a woman, put his hand up her skirt, and [/font][/color][url="http://azdailysun.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_0aa8be56-f7a3-11e1-b804-0019bb2963f4.html"]ran his fingers over her genitals[/url][color=#000000][font=Calibri,]. A jury convicted him of sexual abuse, a felony with a maximum sentence of 2 and a half years in prison, and Evans was fired from the police force after an internal investigation.[/font][/color]
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Nevertheless, Arizona trial Judge Jacqueline Hatch, who was[url="http://azdailysun.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_bb519bc7-bde1-5c35-9e54-308cfa80802f.html"]appointed to the bench by Gov. Jan Brewer (R-AZ)[/url], decided that Evans’ actions did not warrant jail time — sentencing him probation and 100 hours of community service. Evans also will not have to register as a sex offender. Yet, while Judge Hatch apparently did not view the disgraced former cop’s actions as particularly serious, she had some very [url="http://azdailysun.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_0aa8be56-f7a3-11e1-b804-0019bb2963f4.html"]harsh words for the woman he assaulted[/url]:[/font][/color][indent][background=transparent]
Bad things can happen in bars, Hatch told the victim, adding that other people might be more intoxicated than she was.[/background][background=transparent]
“[b]If you wouldn’t have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you[/b],” Hatch said.[/background][background=transparent]
Hatch told the victim and the defendant that no one would be happy with the sentence she gave, but that finding an appropriate sentence was her duty.[/background][background=transparent]
[b]“I hope you look at what you’ve been through and try to take something positive out of it,” Hatch said to the victim in court. “You learned a lesson about friendship and you learned a lesson about vulnerability.”[/b][/background][background=transparent]
Hatch said that the victim was not to blame in the case, but that all women must be vigilant against becoming victims.[/background][background=transparent]
“[b]When you blame others, you give up your power to change[/b],” Hatch said that her mother used to say.[/background][/indent]
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[url="http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/09/07/809861/judge-to-woman-sexually-assaulted-by-cop-when-you-blame-others-you-give-up-your-power-to-change/?mobile=nc"]http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/09/07/809861/judge-to-woman-sexually-assaulted-by-cop-when-you-blame-others-you-give-up-your-power-to-change/?mobile=nc[/url]
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Wow, just wow.[/background]

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You know, if you hadn't been in the bank that day, you might not have gotten shot in that robbery. I hope you learn something, and make better decisions next time you think you want to go into a bank.

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I never understood judges' love affairs with piggies.

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If this was the full context of what the judge had to say, then she should also be booted. ThinkProgress hopefully not shaping the story.

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Sounds like that judge had an ax to grind... Stupid. The cop should be in jail and should have to register as a sex offender, and the judge needs removed.

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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1347120242' post='1889692']
If this was the full context of what the judge had to say, then she should also be booted. ThinkProgress hopefully not shaping the story.
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You can click through to the Arizona Daily Sun for article that contained the quoted material.

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"If your parents weren't poor, & you didn't like football, Sandusky wouldn't have fugged you in the shower kid."

"If you didn't work 3rd shift, you wouldn't have been on the road when that guy was on his way home from the bar with 16 beers in him."

"If you had considered that one day a crazy fug would start sniping people, you could've brought your daughter a bullet proof vest."

"You wouldn't give your camera to a cop after you filmed him roughing up a suspect!?!? Five years! "

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Typical Tea-Bagger appointed by another Tea-Bagger... a true disgraace to her profession and gender.

Hope she has a daughter....

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[quote name='Anybodyhome' timestamp='1347134054' post='1889846']
Typical Tea-Bagger appointed by another Tea-Bagger... a true disgraace to her profession and gender.

Hope she has a daughter....
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Typical, kind hearted liberal
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[quote name='Anybodyhome' timestamp='1347134054' post='1889846']
Typical Tea-Bagger appointed by another Tea-Bagger... a true disgraace to her profession and gender.

Hope she has a daughter....
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So let me get this straight, you call out a group, that has nothing to do with this particular bone head decision, and then wish for the same thing to happen to her daughter, if she has one.


way to stay classy.

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[quote name='MCP' timestamp='1347134612' post='1889853']
So let me get this straight, you call out a group, that has nothing to do with this particular bone head decision, and then wish for the same thing to happen to her daughter, if she has one.


way to stay classy.
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So, let me get this straight.... you didn't know the Governor of Arizona was a Tea-Bagger and that she appointed this judge to the bench in order to help the Governor advance her judicial agenda?

So, let me get this straight, too... you're inferring what? All I said was I hope she has a daughter. Just like I hope you have a nice day, so please stop making poo up in your mind then trying to put it on me.
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[quote name='Anybodyhome' timestamp='1347135327' post='1889863']
So, let me get this straight.... you didn't know the Governor of Arizona was a Tea-Bagger and that she appointed this judge to the bench in order to help the Governor advance her judicial agenda?

So, let me get this straight, too... you're inferring what? All I said was I hope she has a daughter. Just like I hope you have a nice day, so please stop making poo up in your mind then trying to put it on me.
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Why not, I hope she has a cat?

Incredibly weak.

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[quote name='Anybodyhome' timestamp='1347135327' post='1889863']
So, let me get this straight.... you didn't know the Governor of Arizona was a Tea-Bagger and that she appointed this judge to the bench in order to help the Governor advance her judicial agenda?

So, let me get this straight, too... you're inferring what? All I said was I hope she has a daughter. Just like I hope you have a nice day, so please stop making poo up in your mind then trying to put it on me.
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I knew you would say just that, doesn't change the classlessness of your post. I know exactly what you said, and it is more than obvious what you meant. And, you and I both know I wasn't making any poo up, but keep with the denial, and refusal to accept responsibility. At least be a man, and own your stupid statements.

Typical back peddling, when called on you inane poo.

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Apologies to Floppin, Don't want to derail your thread. Sometimes stupid just pisses me off. Won't take it any further though.

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[quote name='MCP' timestamp='1347136052' post='1889872']
Apologies to Floppin, Don't want to derail your thread. Sometimes stupid just pisses me off. Won't take it any further though.
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I don't mind, this is the tinderbox. It's very rare that threads stay on topic much past the first page.

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[quote name='MCP' timestamp='1347135879' post='1889869']

I know exactly what you said, and it is more than obvious what you meant. And, you and I both know I wasn't making any poo up, but keep with the denial, and refusal to accept responsibility. At least be a man, and own your stupid statements.

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It is my statement, hence my name on the post, I do own it.

But apparently I only need to call upon you to post for me now that you exactly what I say and mean. So, are you a multi-millionaire with your ability read the minds of people you don't know and never met?

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It is my statement, hence my name on the post, I do own it.

But apparently I only need to call upon you to post for me now that you exactly what I say and mean. So, are you a multi-millionaire with your ability read the minds of people you don't know and never met?
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I don't know for certain what you meant, but it certainly seemed like you were implying that you hoped she had a daughter that something bad like this would happen to... What did you mean, I still haven't figured it out if you didn't mean that...

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"Little girl, if your mother wasn't a judge with a political ideology different from my own, you wouldn't have been raped."

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[quote name='googoodan' timestamp='1347143050' post='1889981']
"Little girl, if your mother wasn't a judge with a political ideology different from my own, you wouldn't have been raped."
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damn

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Why does everyone assume the worst case scenario?

What if I merely implied that if the judge were to have a daughter at some point, when that daughter was old enough to venture out into the real world that judge mommy might actually might gain a different perspective than the moronic one she now possesses.


"...political ideology different from my own...."
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, based on her decision in the case in question, her political idealogy is obviously different than a lot more people than just mine... unless, of course, you agree with her.

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So you're saying you said it to mean that you hope she has a daughter someday so that she'll gain some perspective, not so that she could learn how it feels for something bad to happen... Marginally reasonable, but you should probably explain more in the future, because it was pretty easy to assume you meant otherwise given the lack of other explanation.

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[quote name='Anybodyhome' timestamp='1347147363' post='1890036']
Why does everyone assume the worst case scenario?

What if I merely implied that if the judge were to have a daughter at some point, when that daughter was old enough to venture out into the real world that judge mommy might actually might gain a different perspective than the moronic one she now possesses.


"...political ideology different from my own...."
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, based on her decision in the case in question, her political idealogy is obviously different than a lot more people than just mine... unless, of course, you agree with her.
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disagreeing with your stupid comment in no way implies I agree with her. the second reply to this thread is me disagreeing with her - albeit in a different context.

and you're seriously backtracking to the point where you were "just mentionin' she might get worried about her kid at some point. no particular reason other than just general parental concern. she was born a crusty old judge and has no idea what its like to be a young lady"?
spare us, please.

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I find it interesting that you phrase it as, what if that is what you meant, instead of coming straight out and saying that was your original intent.

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I hope the judge has a giraffe

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