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#1 cptx

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:21 PM

With week one being complete, what's the verdict on these guys? I'm not sure if I'm watching them more closely because of the situation, but seems like they are not very consistant. I guess that's to be expected. I mean, it's not like there weren't any bs calls with the original refs, and people are always going to disagree and blame officials when stuff doesnt go their teams way, but some of the calls these clowns are making and/or missing are horrible.

They just said on tv that they have a contract until week 5 at the least. Thoughts?

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 01:08 AM

From the few games I watched, they weren't as good as regular refs, but not by much. Here's a decent article that pretty much sums up my opinion.

http://profootballta...opening-sunday/

#3 Falcons1stPanthers2nd

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:01 AM

Other than the SF GB game they were pretty okay. I'm willing to give them time considering what the reg refs want. I hope the NFL doesn't give them another dime.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:09 AM

The guy that refereed our game had a bit of a hard time announcing stuff... but otherwise they were decent.

The biggest gaffe I saw was the SEA-ARI time out thing... but that ended up being a non-issue.

As long as they call games evenly, even if the miss some calls here and there, it's not a big deal.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:12 AM

The guy that refereed our game had a bit of a hard time announcing stuff... but otherwise they were decent.

The biggest gaffe I saw was the SEA-ARI time out thing... but that ended up being a non-issue.

As long as they call games evenly, even if the miss some calls here and there, it's not a big deal.

I noticed in the Saints* game. There was no more of that throwing the flag when brees throws an incompletion for some BS roughing the passer to move the chains on 3rd.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:13 AM

They definitely miss more but I don't want them to pay any more money to those goons. They are lucky to ref NFL games to begin with.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:50 AM

Several sports writers have suggested that the Refs and the Refs union go look at the Air Traffic Controller strike in '81 and be careful they don't repeat that history.


TMQ http://espn.go.com/e...ku-nfl-preview:

Recall the 1981 PATCO strike. An air traffic controllers union walked in violation of a no-strike agreement. Ronald Reagan fired PATCO members who refused his order to return to work. Everyone thought the replacement controllers would do a terrible job, and instead they did fine. PATCO members then relented and asked to return to their high-paying cushy jobs, but it was too late. Many of the strikers never again found jobs as good as the ones they angrily denounced.


IMO they are very dangerously close to doing just that.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:51 AM

They definitely miss more but I don't want them to pay any more money to those goons. They are lucky to ref NFL games to begin with.

Seriously! you want a pension plan on top of what you make. More money and no job evaluations? You were doing a shitty job to begin with i'm gonna give you a raise and a pension plan and top it off with no evaluation of how good of a job your doing? fug that poo.

You work 16 days of the year for 6 figures. fug off.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:52 AM

Seriously! you want a pension plan on top of what you make. More money and no job evaluations? You were doing a shitty job to begin with i'm gonna give you a raise and a pension plan and top it off with no evaluation of how good of a job your doing? fug that poo.

You work 16 days of the year for 6 figures. fug off.



A pension plan that is more generous that the one that FULL TIME employees of the NFL currently get.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:55 AM

A pension plan that is more generous that the one that FULL TIME employees of the NFL currently get.

Here we go replacement refs HERE WE GO

HOO HOO

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:55 AM

Seriously! you want a pension plan on top of what you make. More money and no job evaluations? You were doing a shitty job to begin with i'm gonna give you a raise and a pension plan and top it off with no evaluation of how good of a job your doing? fug that poo.

You work 16 days of the year for 6 figures. fug off.


These fuging idiots think they are the entertainment or something. I say kick em all to the curb, let these new refs get some reps. No one will know the difference by week 6.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:56 AM

unions are destroying this country.

#13 Darth Biscuit

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:29 AM

Several sports writers have suggested that the Refs and the Refs union go look at the Air Traffic Controller strike in '81 and be careful they don't repeat that history.


TMQ http://espn.go.com/e...ku-nfl-preview:


IMO they are very dangerously close to doing just that.



I believe that during "negotiations" last week, the NFLRA believed (based on their pre-season performance) that the replacement refs would have some major screw ups this first week and it would give them leverage with the NFL. Looks like it was a gamble that they lost. They may very soon regret it.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 02:08 PM

I think the replacement refs have gotten better every week since preseason. With the new replay rules regarding touchdowns and turnovers, there's less depending on a refs quick decision. They can afford to make more mistakes. They just have to remember to err on the side of caution, don't blow plays dead or rule incomplete when there's doubt.

I'd axe the regulars if they aren't willing to be reasonable.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 02:50 PM

Yeah the new replay rules are a big help. There were a couple terrible calls I saw on turnovers that got sorted out quickly. I'm not sure I like the idea of slowing the game down with more replays, but I didnt really notice it when I was watching. As long as I dont notice, I'm fine with the new guys.

That being said, there are some arguments to be made for paying your refs good salaries (see Tim Donaghy).


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