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There's no point to force. It's as plain as day. You don't think Carl Nicks contributed to their run game? Jackson was open all day until Schiano went into Fox mode at halftime.

Quit being a sheep.

3.6 ypc is nothing to brag about.

I'm not disputing the fact that Nicks and Jackson will be a big help to that team, they damn well should be for the money they paid. They had the cap space to go out and sign the 2 for a reason. Its not like they let any noteable players walk in free agency and opted to sign these guys instead.

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The problem is people think we are a 13-3 team and got beat by a bad bucs team.

We are a mediocre team with a sophmore QB who is still learning the game and learning how to be an NFL QB.

Both of our lines are pretty bad. We have 1 good player on the defensive line with the rest mediocre players.

We have 2 great players on the OL with one of them getting older by the minute (Gross), with the rest mediocre, horrible, and a rookie.

It all happens on the lines and until we can fix those 2 major issues we will always be a mediocre team.

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Isn't your entire initial post based around it only being week 1? Are you willing to wager against Jackson having more of an impact than Murphy this season?

They saw some contributions from some of their free agent pick ups this week, as expected. They will see more contributions from them as the season progresses. Just because Jackson didn't implode or a hundred yards (even though he likely would have had Tampa kept swinging) doesn't mean he isn't going to be a major contributor this season. To suggest he won't, along with Nicks or even Wright, is just foolhardy.

But our additions that actually did a few things (long catch to set up a TD, sack, etc) don't count cause it's week 1.

No, no, you're being completely reasonable.

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Where did I say he didn't contribute? I was talking about the broken philosophy this team has that people so viciously defend. Not about any of the players that were brought in. Please don't compare a Louis Murphy TYPE addition to a Vincent Jackson TYPE addition.

Especially when you know full well that Murphy himself is probably going to end up the only notable acquisition this team brought in this year. A 3rd WR. Who may slip to 4th in a month.

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I re-watched the game and I'm even more convinced that the Bucs scouted our game preparation @ IMG...

There are several examples of the Bucs defense having an uncanny ability to diagnose the plays we were going to run, especially the "gadget" plays, which makes no sense, except when you consider that we probably spent the majority of the time in the walk through last week going over the plays we don't typically run and any other wrinkles.

One of the most glaring examples of this was early in the game. Cam takes the snap and fakes a pass out to the flat, then pivots to run with the ball while DeAngelo begins to trail him to set up the option sweep. The Bucs defense didn't bite for a moment on the fake pass to the flat, they totally ignored it and converged on Cam... as he pivoted he found himself surrounded by 4 defenders who basically ran to a spot and waited for him.

I would call the Bucs defense lucky if this only happened on one play, but there were several more examples of this kind of "astute" defensive play by the Bucs throughout the first half. When we flipped the script in the 2nd half, the Bucs didn't seem to be nearly as good at reading the play we were going to run... but the damage had been done, you could see our offense was shaken by the fact that Bucs seemed to know our plays better than we did.

There were several examples of poor execution on our part, I'm not making excuses, but it's pretty clear to me that the Bucs had some extra intel on our gameplan.

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The problem is people think we are a 13-3 team and got beat by a bad bucs team.

We are a mediocre team with a sophmore QB who is still learning the game and learning how to be an NFL QB.

Both of our lines are pretty bad. We have 1 good player on the defensive line with the rest mediocre players.

We have 2 great players on the OL with one of them getting older by the minute (Gross), with the rest mediocre, horrible, and a rookie.

It all happens on the lines and until we can fix those 2 major issues we will always be a mediocre team.

What? I thought the D-line did great Sunday. Martin had 95 yards but needed 24 carries to get it. Hardy and D. Edwards each had a sack. Alexander had 2 pass deflections and CJ had a pass deflection. Don't see how you can call that mediocre.

The O-line did get hammered pretty bad though. Still a lot of overreactions. First game of the season. I don't think the OL will consistently get beat this bad all year long.

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6-10 last season, 10 poins in game one. Unless proven otherwise, this is not a good team

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