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#37 Louie

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:23 PM

I think it was some of both. The O line played like ass and Chud didn't adjust. I remember Rivera saying that some last year, "well, we should have adjusted quicker". Why didn't Chud use 2 TE sets? Why didn't he run plays from under center? Why didn't Tolbert lead block to make a whole for Dwill to run? Are you telling me Tolbert couldn't have acted like a FB and made a GD hole? Why didn't Chud use the TE's to pass protect for 2 or 3 seconds and have a late release and go out for a 5 to 10 yard gain? Why did Chud call a whole lot (not all) passes for large of chunks of yards instead of underneath routes? You must be able to adjust to what the defense gives. In a perfect world you want your Offense to dictate to what the Defense is going to do, but sometimes you must adjust or what happened Sunday will happen....again. I don't blame it all on Chud, he's probably an offensive genius. But on Sunday the O line obviously didn't bring their A game, so Chud should have adjusted to max protect Cam, at least until TB quit pinning their ears back and bull rushing almost every play.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:56 PM

I hate to say this but CRA has a point. The Oline sucked but Chud game plan wasn't much better. He never adjusted to what the Bucs were doing. I still don't know why he never lined up Brockle at full back and Tolbert at half back in a power eye and ram it down their throats a few times. At least just to build confidence of the Oline. Get them moving foward instead of backward. Helps the Oline build a attitude we needed in that game.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:10 PM

As I have stated and people bashed....Chud was overrated on this board. people forgot his poorly called games to start off last year.....and a big chunk of his great play calling was just letting a great athlete in Cam do it all. We also lost some winnable games bc Chud likes to put the world on Cam's shoulders.....doing that Sunday also asked too much of an OL.

He is creative. He is good. He isn't the mastermind people created in their heads. He still has a lot to figure out with his Newton lead attack.

Cam without a doubt can put up HUGE numbers in Chud's offense.....Chud needs work on calling an offense to win games though. Chud had moments last year....his best games were games like Washington and Houston when he called complete games and wasn't just wanting to see what Newton could do. he too often asks Newton to do too much.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:47 PM

Very few plays have all deep routes.

Almost all plays have a deep, intermediate, and short routes.

Where Cam decides to go with the ball is his choice.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:48 PM

Fact is, CRA is making up poo to support his high polluting opinion.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:55 PM

Fact is, CRA is making up poo to support his high polluting opinion.

Okay, name what I made up....



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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:01 PM

Very few plays have all deep routes.

Almost all plays have a deep, intermediate, and short routes.

Where Cam decides to go with the ball is his choice.


You ever watch vintage Mike Martz or Oakland a couple seasons ago? You realize what they were doing in the pass game right?

There was a reason why Cam attempted a bigger % of 20+ yard throws than any QB in recent NFL history.....and it wasn't bc he overlooked Williams once. Barber was taking away his screen and check down.....was wanting everything else too deep.

A simple slant or out route or short hook would have done wonders....as would actually running.

Carolina passing game is considered a big chunk attack....Chud took that too far. Rivera will fix that.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:03 PM

O-line gave Cam no time and D-Will nowhere to run, combine that with two poor decisions by Cam and it's no wonder why we lost a close game.



Matthew Stafford made 3 poor decisions and the team still manage to win. How is that?

Funny how Cam gets so much made when in throws Ints regardless of the outcome but not other QBs like Matthew.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:07 PM

Matthew Stafford made 3 poor decisions and the team still manage to win. How is that?

Funny how Cam gets so much made when in throws Ints regardless of the outcome but not other QBs like Matthew.


Yep....QBs make multiple mistakes and win all the time.

Cam is forced to play error free to win a game. Has never won a game being allowed a mistake

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:19 PM

CRA, it surprises me how little you pay attention to our offense.

Doesn't surprise me ya go on and on, without paying attention.

Makes most debates with ya, not worth the time.
If you aren't willing to pay attention, it doesn't matter what is put in front of you.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:26 PM

CRA, it surprises me how little you pay attention to our offense.

Doesn't surprise me ya go on and on, without paying attention.

Makes most debates with ya, not worth the time.
If you aren't willing to pay attention, it doesn't matter what is put in front of you.

Doesn't surprise me that when I simply ask you what specifically you think I said is made up.....you duck the question and just keep talking noise.

You don't have to agree with me....but I at least am more than happy to show you reasons my opinions are formed. But clearly you don't want to go down that road.

Do you know why people hated Mike Martz late in his career? Chud had a little more Martz in him on Sunday than he did last year.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:48 PM

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This just can't happen. 63 gets thrown down like a rag doll. And the entire DLine swims through...

Guess what Offense...what the Jets and Bucs did already to us...That's what's coming every week...