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Meanwhile it's getting freaky in Egypt and Libya.

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When America is perceived as weak, the world shows its "aarse"

China/Japan now sparring over islands, Russia flexing is muscles, but hey, the Pres will probably be on ESPN with Chris Berman doing his picks for week 2 of the NFL.

I mentioned some months ago that an "overreach" was entirely possible with Obama. If his entire foreign policy resume(killing OBL) is put in the spotlight, look out for some rash action to get back his image.
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Yeah...it was about a movie...ON the same day we recognize one of the worst terrorist attacks ever seen in America. Anyone really believe that?

This is becoming a sad joke.
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Sad when the only guy that'll stand up and say what most Americans feel, Ron Paul, gets called crazy by republicans and democrats.
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Most americans do not agree with Dr. Paul. If they did, he might have gotten more than 2-3% of the vote.

And are you actually suggesting that it is wrong to keep embassies in these countries? If so, the founding fathers would disagree with you.

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Why is every action Middle Eastern countries perform religious, but everything we do over there is political?

Get a good chunk of conservatives where they thinks no one can hear, and they'll admit the one reason we can never go against Israel is that the Jews are God's chosen people and we'd be punished for doing so.

Arab politicians know what every politician in the Deep South does: religion is a cheap, easy way to unite and control the poor, uneducated masses.

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aannnndd Delhommey throws in his religous bigotry hat when no one has mentioned religion.

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Please go find a small child to show you the "CTRL + F" feature on your computer

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[quote name='Delhommey' timestamp='1347454080' post='1896954']
Why is every action Middle Eastern countries perform religious, but everything we do over there is political?

Get a good chunk of conservatives where they thinks no one can hear, and they'll admit the one reason we can never go against Israel is that the Jews are God's chosen people and we'd be punished for doing so.

Arab politicians know what every politician in the Deep South does: religion is a cheap, easy way to unite and control the poor, uneducated masses.
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Maybe because of the fact that the protestors themselves said it was religious?

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[color=#000000][font=arial, helvetica, sans]In place of the U.S. flag, the protesters tried to raise a black flag with the words "There is no God but God, and Mohammad is his messenger", a Reuters witness said.[/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=arial, helvetica, sans]Once the U.S. flag was hauled down, some protesters tore it up and showed off pieces to television cameras. Others burned the remains outside the fortress-like embassy building in central Cairo. But some protesters objected to the flag burning.[/font][/color][color=#000000][font=arial, helvetica, sans]
Many Muslims consider any depiction of the Prophet to be offensive.[/font][/color][color=#000000][font=arial, helvetica, sans]
"This movie must be banned immediately and an apology should be made," said 19-year-old Ismail Mahmoud, a member of the so-called "ultras" soccer supporters who played a big role in the uprising that brought down Hosni Mubarak last year.[/font][/color]
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[url="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-egypt-usa-protest-idUSBRE88A11N20120911?irpc=932"]http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-egypt-usa-protest-idUSBRE88A11N20120911?irpc=932[/url]


I guess the thing I don't get, particularly in Libya, is why our embassy was only guarded by private local security?

They did say on TV this morning that the Libyan guards fought it out with the attackers, but I don't get why we don't have at minimum secret service level security. I get it that you don't want to make an embassy look like an armed camp or a fort, but there should be reasonable security for our people.

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Stuff like this makes me move more and more away from organized religion.

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[quote name='nc_biscuit' timestamp='1347454972' post='1896964']
Maybe because of the fact that the protestors themselves said it was religious?



[url="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-egypt-usa-protest-idUSBRE88A11N20120911?irpc=932"]http://www.reuters.c...120911?irpc=932[/url]


I guess the thing I don't get, particularly in Libya, is why our embassy was only guarded by private local security?

They did say on TV this morning that the Libyan guards fought it out with the attackers, but I don't get why we don't have at minimum secret service level security. I get it that you don't want to make an embassy look like an armed camp or a fort, but there should be reasonable security for our people.
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Fwiw, it wasn't the embassy. It was a consulate. Consulates usually have less security.

That being said, the president should order upgrades to security at all US embassies and consulates throughout the area. And not private security either. More Marines should be added.

Edited to add: The US is deploying additional Marines to the US embassy in Libya.

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Seems there's a picture circulating with Ambassador Stevens' body being carried.

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So you mean to tell me that those Al Qaeda members that we armed and provided no fly zones for so that they could topple their governments aren't behaving? I'm shocked!!

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predictable Republicans acting like morons this morning.

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