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Meanwhile it's getting freaky in Egypt and Libya.

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we keep the military in power in pakistan and egypt... that's why we give them military aid.

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we keep the military in power in pakistan and egypt... that's why we give them military aid.

yeah but it can out the eygpt new this crap was going to happen days ago............ so if they knew this mess would happen then WTF. I think everyone knows the status quo wont work out here. I really just wanna get our own oil tell the hippies to shut it and leave this whole freaking part of the world to the isrealis. Love to see the oil lillionairs lose everything.

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egypt and pakistan are also about retaining a balance of power in the region... these people have no love for us and they have no reason to so to expect loyalty from them outside (and even inside) of our "arrangements" is a bit over the top... We go behind their backs, they go behind ours. I'm not saying I like it and egypt is shifting and it's going to be interesting to see what happens...

Unfortunately, pakistan has nukes and is one of the craziest f*cking countries in the world so... that situation can really only get worse.

As far as oil goes, my understanding is that we can't really get our own oil unless we nationalize the industry which everyone would have a poo-fit over. Oil is fungible... there really isn't any way to only use american oil without dramatically changing the infrastructure (and even then i'm not sure it's possible.)

I'm sure someone smarter than me can expand on this further.

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Haven't turned on any of the state run media outlets since this morning. Are they still forcing it down our throats this afternoon? They were all day yesterday and this am as well.

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yeah they are and it keeps getting worse and worse. Some new things out that include: 1 Eygpts Top state department officail refused to let US MArines on US soil (the embassy) carry live rounds. Thats right folks our jarheads were not incompetent (which would have blown my mind if true) instead the state department told them to point their guns at the protesters and say bang bang bang.

2 In lybia the bodies were missing for 12 hours and they dint die quick. Reports state they were freaking SODOMIZED.

3 The state department issed an all clear stand down threat level 5 days before citing "no threat" on 9/11

(So Eygpt new the protest were going to happen 5 days before but we didnt?)

4 When they were missing in Lybia Obama went to bed.

5 Apparently our pres hasnt been attending the intel breifings for the past week.

4&5 havent been confirmed by 2 scources yet so I pray that is not true. Wait 24 -48 on those and we should get more info on em. So there I just saved you from having to watch the media tonight. Do i get paid for this?+

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Care to provide links to any of that?

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yeah they are and it keeps getting worse and worse. Some new things out that include: 1 Eygpts Top state department officail refused to let US MArines on US soil (the embassy) carry live rounds. Thats right folks our jarheads were not incompetent (which would have blown my mind if true) instead the state department told them to point their guns at the protesters and say bang bang bang.

2 In lybia the bodies were missing for 12 hours and they dint die quick. Reports state they were freaking SODOMIZED.

3 The state department issed an all clear stand down threat level 5 days before citing "no threat" on 9/11

(So Eygpt new the protest were going to happen 5 days before but we didnt?)

4 When they were missing in Lybia Obama went to bed.

5 Apparently our pres hasnt been attending the intel breifings for the past week.

4&5 havent been confirmed by 2 scources yet so I pray that is not true. Wait 24 -48 on those and we should get more info on em. So there I just saved you from having to watch the media tonight. Do i get paid for this?+

It was our Ambassador to Egypt that would not allow the Marines to have live ammo.

idk about that sodomy report, I hope that's not true.

Also idk about the SD issuing an all clear... if true, I don't see how that makes any sense... security should automatically be higher on 9/11.

Meh... could be any # of reasons for this... if there wasn't anything going on, I can see him going to bed with orders to be awakened if something came up.

Not attending briefings could be a problem... depends on the reason. I would think that's pretty much one of the president's main jobs, to stay apprised of what's going on around the world and be ready to act and make decisions.

Of course a lot of that could be pure speculation, and like you said, unless there is complete confirmation, hard to say what's true...

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Care to provide links to any of that?

Here's links about the ammo thing... no idea how legit these sites are, never heard of them... they do appear right leaning.

http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/

http://www.kforcegov.com/Services/IS/NightWatch/NightWatch_12000175.aspx

She did not permit US Marine guards to carry live ammunition, according to USMC blogs. Thus she neutralized any US military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.

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As far as oil goes, my understanding is that we can't really get our own oil unless we nationalize the industry which everyone would have a poo-fit over. Oil is fungible... there really isn't any way to only use american oil without dramatically changing the infrastructure (and even then i'm not sure it's possible.)

I'm sure someone smarter than me can expand on this further.

eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kinda last i saw was that it was that we would have to redo all the transport routes to our existing reefineries and do a rework of the transport routes to get the amounts out but if you combined that with the keystone pipeline you could get the oil indepence (not sustanability) in 8 years. To get out of the me you would have to do keystone anwar and a massive investment in South America. Oh and build about 10 more refineries. You would also have to deal with green peace and their legal guys fighting every inch of the way.

So yeah allost impossable.

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I'm not exactly sure. This could be the coup de grace of PNAC, or a manufactured start to WWW3. I'm not exactly sure, but this is only going to get worse. This isn't going to just go away into obscurity. We are going to be forced to act, and whether that was all part of the plan is debatable. I don't know exactly where this is heading, but no course looks very good.

This is what I've been getting at across all of the threads - from the China/oil deal, to these "protests," the major powers either dividing or consolidating power... It's not looking good.

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