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#1 RedMage138

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:48 AM

http://www.grantland...ncompetent-best

I'm usually a fan of Grantland and Bill Barnwell. I think this article is spot on and worth a read.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:53 AM

This is the third posting of this today but the first one with an appropriate title. Can't be posted enough.

Hopefully somewhere JR is reading this and saying something like "Hurney did WHAT?!?!

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:53 AM

So how would he explain why Hurney's team totally destroyed Reese's team to close out the Meadowlands in '09?

My point: using last nights game as an indictment of Hurney's ability as a GM is as silly as using the '09 game as an indictment of Reese's ability as a GM.

I agree with some of what's in the article, but he gets carried away.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:56 AM

My bad for the double post, I didn't see it posted before me.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:57 AM

So how would he explain why Hurney's team totally destroyed Reese's team to close out the Meadowlands in '09?

My point: using last nights game as an indictment of Hurney's ability as a GM is as silly as using the '09 game as an indictment of Reese's ability as a GM.

I agree with some of what's in the article, but he gets carried away.

Bc the emphasis is what Hurney has done in recent years....nothing carried away about that madness

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:59 AM

Bc the emphasis is what Hurney has done in recent years....nothing carried away about that madness


He offers Delhomme's extension coming out of the '08 season as one of the examples of Hurney's incompetence... so our '09 curb stomping of the Giants is in play.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:09 AM

After reading that Hurney needs to be fired.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:10 AM

I've always reserved my judgement on management of the team but that article put a lot into perspective about Hurney. Every single one of the contracts referenced in that article made me cringe.

The weird thing is that CJ's probably peevs me the most and shouldn't

Hurney has accumulated a team full of above average players that we are convinced are great.

He invested in vets with injury concerns (Davis, Beason, Delhomme, etc), a relatively unproven DE for beyond top dollar (that could be a 50 mil. contract), an unnecessary contract for D'lo (He shouldn't have been re-signed; gotta love him though) in the RB factory that is the NFL

This sums it up well:

As a result of all that largesse, the 6-10 Panthers entered this offseason nearly $10 million over the cap and unable to make any sort of foray into free agency. Holes at wide receiver and defensive tackle and depth issues on the offensive line and in the secondary weren't properly addressed, forcing the Panthers to bring in borderline rotation guys from other teams like Dwan Edwards and Haruki Nakamura to start. When the injuries inevitably show up, the players behind them are even weaker.


And we can probably cite a ton of things before the Cardinals game but that playoff game fallout should have been the turning point for this franchise. Instead, it ended up being Hurney trying to grasp on to all of his well drafted players & decent FA signings, meanwhile keeping Foxy and setting us up for failure consequentially spiraling into the dungeons of the NFL for over 2 f*cking years. Now we finally get a franchise QB and it puts a cloak over his sh*t...we hit a speed bump and the curtains are gone, we can see right through.

Above average talent disguised as greatness with the image of one player clouding the true make-up of the team. That's bullsh*t and not a dig at Cam.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:10 AM

Skimmed over it a minute ago and agree with everything, but can't remember... Did he mention letting Peppers walk for nothing after renting him for a season?

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:11 AM

Skimmed over it a minute ago and agree with everything, but can't remember... Did he mention letting Peppers walk for nothing after renting him for a season?


Nope.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:11 AM

Nope.

Welp, then there's also that lol...

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:12 AM

And so it finally begins.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:17 AM

He offers Delhomme's extension coming out of the '08 season as one of the examples of Hurney's incompetence... so our '09 curb stomping of the Giants is in play.


Because a onetime curb stomping is not as as good as a Superbowl Championship or two.

Not to mention, the coach that accomplished that is no longer employed here and while I was not a big fan of Fox's old school ways, he was not this team's main problem, Hurney was.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:22 AM

So how would he explain why Hurney's team totally destroyed Reese's team to close out the Meadowlands in '09?

My point: using last nights game as an indictment of Hurney's ability as a GM is as silly as using the '09 game as an indictment of Reese's ability as a GM.

I agree with some of what's in the article, but he gets carried away.


This is a very different team than 09 though Catman.

A lot HAS changed since then and he cites the draft failures and flubs that have taken place since then as well.

The problem with Hurney is, because of the intermittent success, he's been given passes way too often... 03, 05, 09... Then what. If you look at each year as an at-bat, Hurney has struck out so many times that he wouldn't even be playing in the farm system at this point - he'd be done.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:43 AM

They drafted Brandon LaFell and Armanti Edwards in the third round when the likes of Emmanuel Sanders, Eric Decker, Jimmy Graham, and Aaron Hernandez were available.


There is no defending this. Happy with Lafell but I don't care what anyone says, there was no good reason to draft Armanti when there were plenty of actual WRs sitting there.


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