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#16 RedMage138

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:48 AM

There is no defending this. Happy with Lafell but I don't care what anyone says, there was no good reason to draft Armanti when there were plenty of actual WRs sitting there.


I don't think anyone can honestly say they had Jimmy Graham penciled in to be a top 5 NFL tight end. He was a project, at best, and he developed well in NO's system.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:51 AM

Jimmy Graham was more known for being heckled by opposing fans at basketball games than anything else going into college

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:52 AM

Because a onetime curb stomping is not as as good as a Superbowl Championship or two.

Not to metion, the coach that accomplished that is no longer employed here and while I was not a big fan of Fox's old school ways, he was not this team's main problem, Hurney was.


Nobody said that, but the article is using last night's curb stomping as a platform for suggesting that Reese is a better GM than Hurney, while ignoring the fact that Hurney's team has delivered a similar curb stomping to Reese's team in the not-too-distant past.

Like I said, there are a lot of criticisms in that article I agree with - but the author gets carried away.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:53 AM

Nobody said that, but the article is using last night's curb stomping as a platform for suggesting that Reese is a better GM than Hurney, while ignoring the fact that Hurney's team has delivered a similar curb stomping to Reese's team in the not-too-distant past.

Like I said, there are a lot of criticisms in that article I agree with - but the author gets carried away.


I think the Super Bowl rings are the platform for Reese being a better GM than Hurney.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:54 AM

Nobody said that, but the article is using last night's curb stomping as a platform for suggesting that Reese is a better GM than Hurney, while ignoring the fact that Hurney's team has delivered a similar curb stomping to Reese's team in the not-too-distant past.

Like I said, there are a lot of criticisms in that article I agree with - but the author gets carried away.

Reese's teams last losing season was 2004. Reese's lost can at least be chalked up to a bad day......by a solid roster

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:56 AM

I think the Super Bowl rings are the platform for Reese being a better GM than Hurney.


Okay, we're talking past each other.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:57 AM

Welcome aboard folks.

I have been saying/screaming this to anyone who would listen, and many who would not for over 3 years now.

Hurney is a below average GM, and that's exactly what we have on the field right now. A below average team.

Fox was the problem........always.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:59 AM

Nobody said that, but the article is using last night's curb stomping as a platform for suggesting that Reese is a better GM than Hurney, while ignoring the fact that Hurney's team has delivered a similar curb stomping to Reese's team in the not-too-distant past.

Like I said, there are a lot of criticisms in that article I agree with - but the author gets carried away.


If that was all the article was trying to say I would agree.

He is also saying we are screwed for the long term because JR kept Hurney longer than he should have and allowed him to make more bad financial decisions.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:00 AM

If there was a way to make the playoffs and rid ourselves of Hurney I'd be all for it. Not sure how though

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:02 AM

If there was a way to make the playoffs and rid ourselves of Hurney I'd be all for it. Not sure how though



Obviously is not going to happen, but lets say we don't make the playoffs (likely) I still doubt he will be shown the door.

JR has decided to sail this ship, only money will change his mind at this point.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:09 AM

Well we aren't making the playoffs with him anyway so what do we have to lose?
I wish I could really suck at my job for so long and still be employed.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:14 AM

I am starting to believe the Panthers Organization is some sort of tax shelter / dodge for JR. Otherwise, his love for Hurney just doesn't make sense to me.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:15 AM

Well we aren't making the playoffs with him anyway so what do we have to lose?
I wish I could really suck at my job for so long and still be employed.



No, no, no. Being employed is one thing.

Being told time and again that "the job is yours as long as you want it" is much worse IMO.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:17 AM

This might be harsh but the Panthers will be going in one direction until the old man croaks.
We are pretty much hopeless until then.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:25 AM

JR is flawed horribly due to his "old school" mentality. I love the man for what he's done for us as a fan base and state in bringing us a team, but it's like your parents bought you a Nintendo when you were a kid but swore off ever buying any games for it. Add to that metaphor, you're still sitting around hoping they'll buy you Mario Bros., meanwhile your friends are already onto Segas and Playstations.

He is stuck in his ways... He likes routines. He likes the "familiar." He doesn't like change or deviation from what he knows and once he is comfortable with someone or something, he rides it until it crashes and burns.

We're stuck with Hurney fellas.


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