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So this is The Cam Apologists board?

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See how RGIII handles himself after a loss, then proceed to watch "Young" Cameron. That is the difference between a boy and a man.

RG3 was complaining about dirty play by the Rams after they lost last week.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000064063/article/rg3-complains-of-dirty-extracurriculars-vs-rams

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Just because Cam has gotten some endorsements doesn't mean that is all he cares about. Everything I have read and seen leads me to believe he only cares about winning which is a good thing. Last night he had a bad game. He is still the man though and Im glad to have him. You should be too.

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Go back and watch Jake Delhomme (poor QB at times but GREAT leader) after a humiliating loss, watch Brady, watch tons of QBs.....plenty pout.

Apparently not with the vibe Cam gives off. Team captains have gotten on him about it, as recently as last night. THAT should concern you because Cam has not changed and he's been told his appearing this way negatively affects the team. If you place no stock in most forum posts, can't say I blame you, but if guys like Kalil, Gross, and Smith are concerned about his solo sulking, the fans that care should be too.

http://blogs.charlot...ne-sulking.html

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Instead of sitting alone on the bench.. go get in someones face to get them pumped up, or mingle with teammates to encourage them. Everyone's looking at you Cam. If you want to sit there with your head down in defeat, then your teammates will follow your lead.

I understand your point, and yes, Cam has some growing up to do, just like every other 23 year old.

But please consider this...who is the ultimate leader of the team? Unless I'm mistaken, it's Ron Rivera. When have you seen Ron Rivera do something to rally the troops when times get tough? When have you seen him use a timeout to call the defense over and try to get them refocused? He may not have a towel on his head, but he may as well.

We should not expect more out of a kid than a mature man with many years in the league. Ron is a good communicator with the media and fans, but he is not showing his leadership on the field. That needs to change.

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Cam made the organization look

Bad with his post Game antics

I love the dude...but he needs to grow up

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Those of you putting all this on the defense/special teams. The Patriots and Giants statiscally had two of the worst defenses in the NFL last year and we see where that got them.

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Apparently not with the vibe Cam gives off. Team captains have gotten on him about it, as recently as last night. THAT should concern you because Cam has not changed and he's been told his appearing this way negatively affects the team. If you place no stock in most forum posts, can't say I blame you, but if guys like Kalil, Gross, and Smith are concerned about his solo sulking, the fans that care should be too.

http://blogs.charlot...ne-sulking.html

I will repeat....go watch VETERAN QBs after an embarrassing loss. Plenty pout.

Cam is 22 and what we have done to him the blueprint for how to ruin a talented young QB......I ain't worried about his pouting. More worried Carolina might ruin a rare talent. I don't like the pouting.

But I have said it before, I don't but into the man love of certain players.....Smitty has repeatedly shown he can't handle things appropriately yet the board pimps him as the wise man. I got no beef with Smitty chewing him out a little.

Cam needs work....not sure why that surprises. Cam sulking is the least of our worries at the moment. worry about that when we field a competitive team around him.....instead of while you ask him to carry the team each week

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All the people who spent years defending Delhomme (and Moore) on this board now upset people are defending our present QB? Grow up.

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I understand your point, and yes, Cam has some growing up to do, just like every other 23 year old.

But please consider this...who is the ultimate leader of the team? Unless I'm mistaken, it's Ron Rivera. When have you seen Ron Rivera do something to rally the troops when times get tough? When have you seen him use a timeout to call the defense over and try to get them refocused? He may not have a towel on his head, but he may as well.

We should not expect more out of a kid than a mature man with many years in the league. Ron is a good communicator with the media and fans, but he is not showing his leadership on the field. That needs to change.

I think we need to improve in multiple facets. I agree about Rivera, and I agree about Cam. They both are far from perfect, and both need to grow at their positions.. and fast.

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