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#16 carolina-chuck

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:46 PM

Too much break downs.
Let me make it short and simple: Rivera

#17 Fox007

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:57 PM

Only picture you needed to show was one of the many where our CBs are giving a 15 yard cushion to the WR on 3rd and 2.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:32 PM

Only picture you needed to show was one of the many where our CBs are giving a 15 yard cushion to the WR on 3rd and 2.



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#19 Achilles

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:33 PM

I'm not buying the notion that we lack talent. I blame the scheme and the game plan. Players have to make plays, I understand...that applies more to the offense, especially the o line. But when you don't change your scheme at all and play a well coached team your are asking to get burned and that is just what happened. We have starter quality at every position except DE2, FS, and a rookie from a nonSEC school at CB2 . A very good HC and DC could have success with our talent level. We just have coaches that have their heads up their arses.

Hurney may not be the best and he's had some busts, but for god's sake there are literally dozens of unknown gems in the NFL that contribute and play well on GOOD teams in this league...role players they are called...many of them are UFAs.

How come we don't see that happening on this team? We have just as good prospects as any other team.

1. We have never had success at developing talent. 2 RR and McD ( and even Chud this season) don't what the HELL they are doing.

It's not talent...it's coaching!

#20 Pimpdaddy

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 07:00 PM

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#21 Tarheels23

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 07:08 PM

The first picture is very disturbing. For one, not too many teams throws the ball deep when backed up on their own 20. Secondly, NY is only in a 2 WR set.

What the hell!

#22 h0llywood

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:01 PM

Plain and simple, pass rush sucks. If Eli Manning threw more under duress, the back four would be able to make more plays as they will be less accurate.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:24 PM

The key to this game was the defensive line just like the last game. Last week they did a pretty good job against the run and a great job bothering Brees. This week they did nothing to contain the run and Manning had all day to throw. Norman can't do anything against a QB with that much time. If we could've generated the same pressure as we did against Brees we would have seen a different game entirely.

This defense can scheme all it wants but it's going to come down to line play in every game. Don't claim the team can blitz either because that just makes it easier on a good QB. Pressure from just the front four is the ultimate advantage in this league. It's always been important, but with good QBs everywhere it is a necessity.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:31 PM

well the defense played poor because the DC was so scared of manning hitting them with the deep pass, that he played a prevent defense all night, telling the db's to play off the receivers and to tackle them in front of them. Giving them the short stuff. Problem is, Manning is a great qb and picked the secondary apart.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:23 AM

IMO we are still playing like we have scrubs at every position. Playing safe on defense and hoping the offence can out score the other team. Its like the reverse Fox idea. I have yet to see Godfrey, keek,Anderson, or Applewhite blitz this year.


#26 Keith Moons Liver

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:27 AM

IMO we are still playing like we have scrubs at every position. Playing safe on defense and hoping the offence can out score the other team. Its like the reverse Fox idea. I have yet to see Godfrey, keek,Anderson, or Applewhite blitz this year.

We more or less do have scrubs at every position. Not very many of our defensive starters would crack the starting lineup on a good franchise.

#27 Snake

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:31 AM

We more or less do have scrubs at every position. Not very many of our defensive starters would crack the starting lineup on a good franchise.


Way to be a drama queen. Do you really believe that cause if you do your a dumb ass as well.

#28 Catalyst

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:35 AM

I honestly feel like our defensive issues are mostly scheme-based as opposed to talent-based. I mean, I'm not saying we have studs across the board or don't have holes, but generally speaking I feel like we have a good enough defensive unit to play a lot better than we are. It doesn't seem like the players buy into what they're being asked to do, IMO. Or don't understand it, or maybe McDermott doesn't know what he wants them to do.

But in any event, I honestly feel it's a schematic problem and not that all our defensive players are awful.

#29 Keith Moons Liver

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:37 AM

Way to be a drama queen. Do you really believe that cause if you do your a dumb ass as well.

you're*
I suggest you make an attempt at proper grammar when insulting the intelligence of your betters.

#30 RevJ

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:02 AM

Here's how scheme could help - put 14 men on the field. We could prob run at least a half dozen series before the replacement refs caught it. It would also allow us to see Martin not in position to make a tackle and Haruki arriving at the end of the play and hitting someone hard - after a 17 yard gain.


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