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#136 rodeo

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:56 PM

You are not counting the significant amount that is spent on charity and support that us given to needy members. There were dozens of families in the church I attended that would have either starved or been forced to go on welfare without the generosity of the church.

I would also be interested in how the % above lines up with other religions. I see that you conveniently left all others off.

Methodist church gives 29%

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 07:09 PM

doesn't this thread illuminate the fact that we have been brainwashed? meaning that most here are all hung up on %'s as opposed to how EFFECTIVE the charity has spent the money.

lets say Rommney paid 50% to charity or even taxes. isn't it more important how THAT money is spent, instead of how it was taxed or earned?

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:49 PM

isn't it more important how THAT money is spent, instead of how it was taxed or earned?



Ahem. You're talking to a bunch of liberals on here.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:09 AM

Ahem. You're talking to a bunch of liberals on here.


Exactly using logic is a useless endeavor when Liberals are involved.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:49 AM

High or low in comparison to other religions, what exactly would that prove?


His point is that the Mormon Church should not be viewed as a charitable donation because if this statistic.

If they are in line with other churches, you can't call them on it. Unless the point being made is that no donations to any church should not be tax deductible.

If you want to make that leap, that us a huge impact to millions if taxpayers of all income levels.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:50 AM

Methodist church gives 29%


Where are you getting these %'s?

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:04 AM

doesn't this thread illuminate the fact that we have been brainwashed? meaning that most here are all hung up on %'s as opposed to how EFFECTIVE the charity has spent the money.

lets say Rommney paid 50% to charity or even taxes. isn't it more important how THAT money is spent, instead of how it was taxed or earned?


Regarding how the charity spends it, I don't really think its all that important. Its his money, and its up to him who he decides to voluntarily give it to. As long as they are not doing anything illegal or harmful with it, I don't care.

I am sure there are some who don't think the Mormon church should be a charity and some who think that no church should be a charity for tax purposes, but thats a completely different discussion.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:59 AM

Where are you getting these %'s?



Years of statistical training. Door to door interviews with churches. Nights spent poring over the books of those churches. Deep Throat interviews with clergymen.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:47 PM

Typical liberal and media reaction to romney's tax rate.

Hate Romney because he only paid 14%.......realize that he only paid 14% because he gave 25% of his earnings to charity....start bashing the charity that he gave to.

Pathetic.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:49 PM

Years of statistical training. Door to door interviews with churches. Nights spent poring over the books of those churches. Deep Throat interviews with clergymen.

I already linked in the thread where it's from. You guys are too lazy to do the work yourselves and are looking for a handout, no wonder you're Republicans.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:53 PM

I already linked in the thread where it's from. You guys are too lazy to do the work yourselves and are looking for a handout, no wonder you're Republicans.


You linked an anti-mormon website as your prrof. Much like linking a conspiracy website to support your conspiracy.

I read through some of what was on that site....it was amazing how much was categorically wrong.

Typical.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:57 PM

Obama....from "yes we can" to "nobody could have". 4 years of complete fail, and you idiots want to give him 4 more.


Household Incomes Fall In Aug., Off 8.2% Under Obama; labor force participation rate down to 63.5%, a rate not seen in the past 30 years
Wed, Sep 26 2012
By JOHN MERLINE, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

In another sign that the economic recovery under President Obama is not producing gains for average Americans, median household incomes fell 1.1% in August to $50,678, according to a report released Tuesday by Sentier Research.
Since the economic recovery started in June 2009, household incomes are down 5.7%, the Sentier data show, and they are down more than 8% since Obama took office.
"Even though we are technically in an economic recovery, real median annual household income is having a difficult time maintaining its present level, much less recovering," said Sentier co-founder and former Census Bureau official Gordon Green.
Earlier this month, the Census Bureau released its annual report showing that the number of people in poverty was nearly 3 million higher in 2011 than in 2009, an increase of 6%.
That report also found that average incomes for middle- and lower-income households fell in 2011 after adjusting for inflation. They rose only for the wealthiest 20% of households.
GDP revised down
Economic growth was much weaker than previously estimated in the second quarter as a drought cut into inventories, setting the platform for an even more sluggish performance in the current quarter against the backdrop of slowing factory activity.
Gross domestic product expanded at a 1.3 percent annual rate, the slowest pace since the third quarter of 2011 and down from last month’s 1.7 percent estimate, the Commerce Department said in its final estimate on Thursday.
Output was also revised down to reflect weaker rates of consumer and business spending than previously estimated. Outlays on residential construction export growth were also not as robust as had been previously estimated.
Middle-Class Squeeze
The average inflation-adjusted income for households in the middle 20% is now lower than it's been since 1995, the census report found.
Meanwhile, another report released Tuesday finds that per-capita health costs jumped 4.6% last year, marking a turnaround from previous years, which had seen annual cost increases moderating. The Health Care Cost Institute report found that rising prices are a "major driver" of the cost increases.
And a report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released this month found that the number of uninsured climbed 1 million in the first three months of 2012 compared with last year.
Food-Stamp Nation
Other bad signs: The number of people on food stamps is up more than 220,000 in the first half of this year and up almost 12 million — or 34% — from June 2009 to June 2012.
The number of people in the labor force has fallen more than half a million in the past two months, with the participation rate down to 63.5%, a rate not seen in the past 30 years, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Almost 83,000 signed up for federal disability benefits in September, and more than 736,000 have joined in the first nine months of this year, according to the Social Security Administration. That's a higher enrollment rate than the first nine months of the Obama presidency.
Analysts say the higher disability enrollment rates are in part a reflection of workers' inability to find jobs.
On the other hand, the Consumer Confidence Index climbed in September to 70.3, a nine-point increase from August, according to the Conference Board.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:17 PM

I already linked in the thread where it's from. You guys are too lazy to do the work yourselves and are looking for a handout, no wonder you're Republicans.



You....you just turned it around on me! You clever little devil!

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:05 AM

THIS is why Romney doesn't release jack.

He could give $1 billion to save baby seals and liberals would still not accept any of his personal charity giving because he doesn't want unborn babies slaughtered.

#150 SuperMan

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:45 AM

THIS is why Romney doesn't release jack.

He could give $1 billion to save baby seals and liberals would still not accept any of his personal charity giving because he doesn't want unborn babies slaughtered.


Don't you know by now?

Liberals love handouts but only when they aren't the ones paying for it.


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