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#31 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:23 AM

This is probably closer to what he did in previous years and would explain why we are not going to see those returns. And it's nothing to do with whats legal or smart - its about the fact that the rich are benefitted FAR MORE with our tax codes than the sniveling, entitled, freeloading government dependent poor.



Unless said poor qualify for earned income credit (and the majority of poor do), in which case they can get more more back than they pay in (even when including social security and medicare taxes). At very least, they pay very little overall in total federal taxes.

The tax code, in the confusing and halting style in which it is written, actually favors the poor more than it does the wealthy. And I am not complaining about that, but both do better regarding federal taxes than those making between 40-200 or so thousand a year.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:43 AM

The rich use tax accountants and paid for rules to save millions, then they put it into tax havens. The poor might get a few thousand they use to buy things they need, helping the economy.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:55 AM

The rich use tax accountants and paid for rules to save millions, then they put it into tax havens. The poor might get a few thousand they use to buy things they need, helping the economy.


God you and the other flaming liberals in here are truly fuging idiots.

His effective rate was 14% because he donated nearly 1/3 if his income to charity. He donated to help people who need help. If he was a greedy bastard, he would have just not made those donations and paid a higher effective tax rate. If he had done that, he would have netted more money.

Your hatred blinds you to logic....it more likely you are just an angry and plain dumb person.

#34 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:58 AM

The rich use tax accountants and paid for rules to save millions, then they put it into tax havens. The poor might get a few thousand they use to buy things they need, helping the economy.


Or the rich buy expensive cars, houses, vacation homes etc which help the econom... while the poor give it coke dealers which helps the columbian economy.


Fwiw, neither my statement nor yours is correct. Each individual person handles it differently, according to his or her own desires, experience, upbringing and beliefs. I have known both wealthy and poor people and there really isn't any, all rich people do this, or all poor people do that standard.

#35 SuperMan

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:43 AM

God you and the other flaming liberals in here are truly fuging idiots.

His effective rate was 14% because he donated nearly 1/3 if his income to charity. He donated to help people who need help. If he was a greedy bastard, he would have just not made those donations and paid a higher effective tax rate. If he had done that, he would have netted more money.

Your hatred blinds you to logic....it more likely you are just an angry and plain dumb person.


Trying to have a logical discussion with a liberal is a lost cause.

The average liberal IQ is well below the curve.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 11:08 AM

God you and the other flaming liberals in here are truly fuging idiots.

His effective rate was 14% because he donated nearly 1/3 if his income to charity. He donated to help people who need help. If he was a greedy bastard, he would have just not made those donations and paid a higher effective tax rate. If he had done that, he would have netted more money.

Your hatred blinds you to logic....it more likely you are just an angry and plain dumb person.

He didn't donate to people who need help, he tithed to the Church of Mormon. There's a difference.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:26 PM

what is fair share nowadays?

#38 SuperMan

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:00 PM

He didn't donate to people who need help, he tithed to the Church of Mormon. There's a difference.


Yes because the Church of Mormon doesn't do anything charitable for the needy ;)

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:03 PM

Membership fees being tax deductible amuse me.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:28 PM

Yes because the Church of Mormon doesn't do anything charitable for the needy ;)


Not really

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:29 PM

Tom Cruise donates to The Church of Scientology and writes it off as charity

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:51 PM

Yes because the Church of Mormon doesn't do anything charitable for the needy ;)

Mormons are bound by their doctrine to give to the Church of Mormon. They have no choice, it's not something he did out of the goodness of his heart. It's not a voluntary donation like in most religions other than Scientology.

It goes to building stuff like this, very very little to actual charity.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:57 PM

Plus they just donated it back to his SuperPAC anyways.

#44 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 02:43 PM

Mormons are bound by their doctrine to give to the Church of Mormon. They have no choice, it's not something he did out of the goodness of his heart. It's not a voluntary donation like in most religions other than Scientology.



Its voluntary regardless of what their doctrine is.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 03:18 PM

Mormons are required by Commandment of God to pay 10% of all their GROSS income to the LDS church. This includes all income - including: employment, unemployment insurance, student loans, pell grant checks, Social Security income, Medicare, foodstamps, trust funds and any other form of income, even including finding money on the ground.

http://mormoncurtain...g_section1.html


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