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the NFL reeeeaaallly doesn't like schiano


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#1 rayzor

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:50 PM

very interesting read from mike silver. the whole thing is worth reading, imo.
http://sports.yahoo....dGlvbnM-;_ylv=3

Whether Coughlin knew it – and I suspect he did – the Giants' coach was also standing up to a perceived bully who developed a dubious reputation in NFL circles during his 11 years as Rutgers' domineering head coach.

If you took a poll of league talent evaluators, no one would have a higher approval rating than Coughlin right now, because he essentially informed Schiano that the rookie's devil-may-care attitude won't cut it at football's highest level. This is a sensitive subject in scouting circles, because Schiano was almost universally viewed as unaccommodating, intimidating and downright disrespectful by NFL representatives who paid visits to Rutgers from 2001-11, and there were plenty of groans and eye-rolls when he accepted the Bucs job last January.

As one veteran NFL coach said of Schiano earlier this week, "It's his way or [expletive] you. He needs to back up a little bit, or he's going to have a very hard time in this league over the long haul."

In conversations with nearly a dozen NFL general managers, personnel executives, scouts and coaches familiar with Schiano's time at Rutgers, I detected an almost unprecedented degree of resentment and disdain for a man who has yet to coach his third professional game. They believe his decision to instruct his defenders to blow up the Giants' line and lunge at quarterback Eli Manning in a typically uncontested scenario was indicative of the unapologetic arrogance that made Rutgers a notoriously dreaded stop on most scouts' itineraries during his tenure. In the words of one NFC personnel executive, "It was pure misery."
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"Penn State was off limits for all but two days a year, but they didn't make you feel as unwelcome," says one AFC team's top personnel executive. "At Rutgers, it was a really unpleasant day. You were made to feel like an outsider, like you weren't welcome. And everyone was scared to talk to you.

"[Schiano] tried so hard to be a hard ass and went out of his way to be rude. When you'd pass him in the hallway, you might say, 'Good morning,' and he'd look at you like you're a [expletive] idiot. A guy like him doesn't realize that probably half of us played the game at a really high level – it's completely condescending. He would go out of his way to make you feel as uncomfortable as he could."

The feelings of isolation weren't merely figurative: Schiano required visiting talent evaluators to spend part of the practice sessions sequestered in a small, sunken, dugout-like area far away from the non-visible field.

"They made you report to practice at a certain time – when it starts – but then they stuck you 200 yards away from the field in an [enclosed] alleyway," one NFC team's player personnel director recalled. "This is Jersey; it could be raining, sleeting, whatever. The field's elevated, so this was down the steps, where you couldn't see, and there's a security guard holding you there 'till you get the OK to come out and watch practice. Sometimes you stood for 45 minutes and only got to watch for 10 minutes. It varied. If you tried to talk to anyone on the staff, [Schiano] gave you the stare-down. I think it was just a lack of respect to NFL personnel."
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Most people in the scouting community aren't put off by Schiano simply because of personal grudges, or because they believe he made a tough job even more difficult. They also view him as some sort of hypocrite for taking a job in a league whose interests he treated with such obvious disdain for so long.

the whole article is good and gives a pretty good insight into this guy.

the following isn't really re: the NFL, but his attitude/lack of respect for others is shown...

Belichick's high regard for Schiano is curious given what was possibly the coach's most divisive moment at Rutgers, an incident that was related several years ago by author and Washington Post columnist John Feinstein. According to Feinstein, Schiano, during his first visit to Navy with the Scarlet Knights, ignored a pregame itinerary that called for both teams to clear the field a few minutes early so that the Brigade of Midshipmen could perform their customary march. Schiano, Feinstein wrote, defiantly kept his team on the field as the Midshipmen appeared, and later falsely claimed not to have been aware of the tradition. Belichick's father, Steve, was a longtime assistant coach and scout at the Naval Academy.



#2 Panthers128

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:58 PM

Personal matters are irrelevant. A guy can coach or he can't. Schiano has had an impressive start to the season.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:03 PM

the NFL needs the stick up its ass twisted some

#4 Falcons1stPanthers2nd

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:56 PM

the NFL needs the stick up its ass twisted some

Agreed. Need some personality.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:50 PM

He's been good. Nobody can deny that. He's instilled a fiery mentality throughout the Bucs locker room. Sure, when a team is taking a knee, you shouldn't be shooting the gaps. That's fuging ignorant and some level of punishment should be carried out there I think. It's fuged up. It'd be different if the players did that on their own and then Schiano ripped them for it (seen it happen at EVERY level). He didn't. It was clear he called it. That isn't right. Apart from that, as long as the guy is being clean and not cheating to get wins, let him be. He has a different personality. That can be good or bad, but as of now, I see no issue.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:32 PM

I actually feel sorry for Freeman and their O-line. Every time they kneel, they are going to get blown up. Calling timeout so they have to kneel 2 more times. I look for some offsides crushes against Tampa when they kneel with the crap they are pulling.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:40 PM

Don't know and don't care if they like him or not. But he sure did a poor job today. That was the worst offensive performance I have seen this year.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:41 PM

Personal matters are irrelevant. A guy can coach or he can't. Schiano has had an impressive start to the season.



Hahahaha I hope you are kidding? They barely beat us which the way they played there is no reason in the world they should have. And today they looked like absolute crap against the Cowboys. He has not had a very impressive start. Very average to mediocre start is more like it

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:42 PM

Don't know and don't care if they like him or not. But he sure did a poor job today. That was the worst offensive performance I have seen this year.


They were poorly coached. It was obvious

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:54 PM

They were poorly coached. It was obvious


Agreed. Aikman called it, their offensive playcalling, especially late in the second half, was baffling.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:05 PM

Hahahaha I hope you are kidding? They barely beat us which the way they played there is no reason in the world they should have. And today they looked like absolute crap against the Cowboys. He has not had a very impressive start. Very average to mediocre start is more like it


Well, despite what you may think, I can't see the future. The Bucs played well vs the Giants and Panthers.

Freeman doesn't look like an NFL QB a lot of the time. He's gotten progressively worse since the season began. I think they should make a move for Matt Moore.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:03 PM

I don't like Schiano either. Hope the Panthers have the Buc's number next time,.

#13 rayzor

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:23 PM

just read that article...forget about the whole victory formation. he's a prick.

if you paid attention to the way the buc players talked about gruden after he left, they hated the guy. they really didn't like how demeaning he was to them. schiano, i think, will end up being regarded the same way. he's seen as someone who tries to be a bully by most of those who have had to deal with him.

you know that his Oline and QB have to know that they now are going to start having targets on them when they try to do kneel down...and they do them. they did it with us at the end of the first half and for two minutes at the end of the game. then they did it at the end of the first half of the giants game. i wonder how his players feel knowing that their claim to toughness is going to be attacking unprepared and defenseless players when they decide to take a knee when the game is essentially over.

the way schiano has treated the NFL is going to do him nor that team any favors with other teams. why would they care? because at some point they are going to want to make some trades. i can see GMs and other teams saying they just don't want to bother with that team just on principle.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:50 AM

the Giants put up 25 points in he first 14 and 3/4 mins. of the 4th qt.

so he instructs his players to play really hard that last 30 seconds.

douche........

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:36 AM

Media seems infatuated with "bullies" in the NFL recently. First was this column about Schiano being a bully, and now Wetzel has a piece on Y! Sports about coaches and players being bullies towards the replacement refs. Were all these guys picked on in high school? Does anybody give a crap about guys in professional football being bullies? These are awful.


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