Jump to content





Photo
* * * * * 3 votes

Walking dead season 3

walking dead

This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
1010 replies to this topic

#817 lightsout

lightsout

    Doin' stuff...thaaaangs

  • Joined: 24-February 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,924
  • Reputation: 1,342
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

Midseason finale of season 4 = end of prison arc. I believe I called that a few weeks before the midseason finale of this season. Could go to the end of next season, but I HIGHLY doubt that (that'd be waaaaaay too much, unless they really dove into character development in a MAJOR way).

Spoiler


#818 Porn Shop Clerk

Porn Shop Clerk

    Honky

  • Joined: 22-January 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 17,247
  • Reputation: 4,032
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

yeah daryl is gonna die at the end of the prison arc imo. could be in 2 episodes, could be in 10. but he will die soon.

#819 CCS

CCS

    Glutton for heart break and punishment

  • Joined: 13-February 11
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 3,495
  • Reputation: 390
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

I actually hope he doesn't die but I know how Kirkman is. He seems to kill off every single character that I like and leaves worthless people like Carol in the show and the Preacher in the comics. I guarantee that Kirkman is fuging salavating at the chance to kill of Daryl since he's by far the most popular character that he's ever created. Chances are that it's going to be a violent and random death too if Kirkman has anything to say about it.


But I don't think AMC will let him kill Daryl....yet. Further down the line I could see it happening if the ratings start slipping or something.

#820 nickzz

nickzz
  • Joined: 28-February 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 3,421
  • Reputation: 849
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:52 PM

anyone else think that one black guy in the governor's crew looks like he could be ed reed's relative?

#821 natty

natty

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,801
  • Reputation: 550
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:07 PM

I thought that was a weak episode. The plot didn't move much and there was hardly any character development. The hiding scene was suspenseful but overall meaningless. Reminded me a lot of season 2.

#822 lightsout

lightsout

    Doin' stuff...thaaaangs

  • Joined: 24-February 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,924
  • Reputation: 1,342
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:25 PM

I thought that was a weak episode. The plot didn't move much and there was hardly any character development. The hiding scene was suspenseful but overall meaningless. Reminded me a lot of season 2.



I thought the opposite. Character's developed. Milton, Andrea, Tyreese and his group. Governor showed more of what we already knew, but now Milton and Andrea see it. It's a set up episode for the next two.

To me, the hiding scene DID have a purpose. It was Andrea's moment. This has launched a pivotal point in her character. Her being able to sacrifice a warm bed and seemingly guaranteed safety due to the moral dilemma presented with the Governor's actions and the Woodbury/Prison conflict in general. And, just to add one more, it's her "cold blooded" moment. A couple episodes ago, she couldn't bring herself to murder the Governor in cold blood. Season 2, she sided with Dale on the Randall situation. This last episode, she released what seemed to be about 15 or so walkers on the Governor and no fugs were given. Comic Andrea is slowly coming forth....

It's also the episode where the Governor has completely become obsessed with killing outside survivors (namely Michonne, but also the rest of the group) and really asserting himself on people (ie, Milton), whereas before, he just sweet talked his away around people.

Plenty happened, with a bit more zombie killing just to keep the action going on so that these last two episodes, where action is guaranteed to get going, don't seem to have "forced" action in them.

#823 natty

natty

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,801
  • Reputation: 550
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:46 PM

I feel like that all could have been expressed in a forth of an episode. And I strongly disagree about Andrea. She didn't make a moral decision, she was backed into a corner and did what she had to do. It was a turning point episode for her(and the governor, I agree) but since the 2nd season I have this skeptical part of my mind that is always critical of the pacing. Also, the governor popping back up right when Andrea was approaching the prison was a bit cliched to me.

It wasn't a bad episode by any means, just weak given how well the rest of the season has gone.

#824 cookinwithgas

cookinwithgas

    Grey Poupon Elitest Trash

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • posts: 24,870
  • Reputation: 2,558
SUPPORTER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:11 PM

The last episode was great for Andreas character - shes way better doing and not thinking which is odd since her character was a lawyer. Laurie Holden is not a very good actress, at least for this show, but she has a tough chick look.

The big character development in terms of the show last ep was the governor - I really do believe he's completely a bad guy now and he's completely sold himself to the idea that he deserves to have and hold power. "Show me, don't tell me" was never more shown on this show than this last ep. Nerdy assistant guy started making some sense, and Tyreese finally got some real attention. I've liked the past few shows that focus more on a smaller group of people than the back and forth with everyone getting moments type of show, but next week it will probably revert to that as things get heated up.

#825 Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)

Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)

    Jesus Shuttlesworth

  • Joined: 30-January 10
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 6,002
  • Reputation: 1,439
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:14 PM

If you wanna explain what the pic has to do with things, that'd be good. Without any context though, a pic from a show I don't watch and a "this guy says hi" caption don't really say much to me.


Spoiler


BTW, you should definitely give GoT a shot. I haven't heard of anyone who has tried it and not become hooked. Most people like it more than TWD too.

Very similar kind of stuff to TWD in terms of complicated relationships, badasses, crazy people, etc, except there is a lot of, for lack of a better word, "strategy" to the relationships and the things going on. And the acting is, IMO, much superior to TWD.

#826 pstall

pstall

    Gazebo Effect

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 23,828
  • Reputation: 3,112
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:35 PM

im with natty on the pacing. that might be my only gripe and that's saying something.

i still avoid the comic as i want to be surprised and remove any preconcieved notions. this also allows kirkman to do what he wants and not be bound by the pages of the very comic he created. creative license gets turned inside out if you will.

i think the prison theme gets wrapped up with a couple of loose ends. and just one main person getting offed.

and not seen one nano second of Game of Thrones.

#827 Porn Shop Clerk

Porn Shop Clerk

    Honky

  • Joined: 22-January 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 17,247
  • Reputation: 4,032
HUDDLER

Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:48 PM

walking dead is hands down the best comic series i've ever read, after the first 20 or so issues. they're pretty bad in comparison.

the show is only faithful to the comics as far as the basic backbone of the plot. there is a lot that's changed, and honestly the comic is way better at this point. not comparing issue 107 to the current point in the show, but the relative points in the series. issues 30-40ish i think. maybe the 50s. been a long time since i read them.

i like how they change some people's deaths. i'm especially glad they kept shane around through the farm instead of killing him off long before they got there. how they kill lori on the show goes a long way towards establishing carl's character in other ways, ways they probably can't pull off on the show.

Spoiler


so they're both very rewarding experiences. i really do hope the show can manage the awesomeness that the comic has. if it does, it will be the best television ever.

as far as earlier comments about an "end game", it wouldn't surprise me if zombies are eventually all but wiped out and the plot turns into a mad max style apocalypse storyline. imo that's what kirkman ultimately envisioned for the series. the zombies are just the prologue to a much larger story about what happens when civilization collapses and groups start vying for power.

also yeah not happy with an entire episode about andrea and the guv'nah but at least it was well done. very hitchock in its execution, and i can dig that, even though it was too damn predictable. some of those tools laid out in the chamber were horrifying.

#828 Bronn

Bronn

    Sellsword

  • Joined: 26-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,329
  • Reputation: 1,583
HUDDLER

Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:21 AM

I agree with PSC... Zombies are just a plot device at this point... especially in the comics (see the newest character introduction in the comics)... It is more about life after the world the survivors knew ended...

It doesn't matter anymore who you were or what you were before... Right now, you're a survivor... and your every waking moment pretty much involves continuing to survive.

This has a strong parallel with other fiction I love... like GoT even... A tagline from that is "In the Game of Thrones you win or you die." Change "Game of Thrones" with "fight for survival" and you have a recipe for great storytelling just like TWD has. It beckons the inner fight/flight response in us all... even though it is a made up fictional world...