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Grantland: Punting on 4th-and-1 candidate for worst coaching move of the year


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#31 Toolbox

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 10:47 AM

Rivera has to go.. the man cannot coach.. makes me wonder what the hell hurney saw in this guy.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 10:51 AM

Had I been at the game I would have yelled at Rivera to go for it then, but alas all I could do was yell at my TV then make "cowardly" posts about Rivera's bad coaching

you and me both. difference is, we are measly fans who can yell anything about anything with no repercussions. i wanted us to go for it too and was yelling, but as a fan, we don't have pressure to deal with. but again, cam doesn't fumble we don't have this discussion.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 10:54 AM

hey guys i have a great idea

let's go for it on 4th and 1 when we could easily get stopped AND we're in atlanta AND we're facing a red-hot offense who would easily win if they get the ball at midfield AND...

or we can try to give them, at worst, 80 yards which isn't a guaranteed victory. oh even better, 99 yards!!!

i'm sure whatever dumb bullshit computer program that grantland runs would say that the chances of winning when you have to drive 99 yards in 60 seconds with 0 timeouts is miniscule. we win that game 9 times out of 10. we probably fail that short run 9 times out of 10. i mean, you people keep bitching about our run playcalls anyway. it hasn't been as effective as it was last year. it is totally different from last season, where no matter what, we were getting the first down.

absolutely the right playcall in this situation. if we were playing a shitty offense i could understand. like the jags or something. but the falcons? are you fuging insane? give them 50 yards when we could give them 80-99? no.

anyway, then haruki nakamura and josh norman fuged up for 2 or 3 plays. this game isn't on rivera or mcdermott or chud. we probably wouldn't have been in the fuging game with any other coaching staff (i mean, this *is* the only close game atlanta has even had).

shut up about it already. jesus.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:04 AM

why do people keep saying the needed 99 yards

they only needed a FG, not a TD

was I watching a different game or tripping on shrooms and not know it?

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:07 AM

Yeah. Considering how well we'd contained Ryan, White and Turner, I know I was pretty confident giving the ball back to them and relying on a pretty good defense to stop them.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I know I was completely blown away when Ryan attacked Nakamura and Norman for a huge gain. I hadn't seen the Falcons try to expose that matchup yet and it took me completely by surprise.

Good coaching decision.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

I disagree

The defense should have stopped them

Period

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

Either way, our defense is so bad it's just not even funny. They do nothing right. The coaching is bad. The scheme is bad. They can't cause turnovers. They can't cover. They can't tackle. They can't swat down passes. They can't stop the run. There is not a single redeeming quality for our defensive unit.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:15 AM

why do people keep saying the needed 99 yards

they only needed a FG, not a TD

was I watching a different game or tripping on shrooms and not know it?


No you are right and I'm retarded for saying 99 yards. But our defense is still the worst to ever take the field in history. At any level of the sport of football.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:17 AM

Interesting nugget I found:


Elias says Matt Ryan game-winning's drive vs. Panthers was the first in 20 years that started inside the five-yard line with less than a minute left and no timeouts.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:19 AM

Either way, our defense is so bad it's just not even funny. They do nothing right. The coaching is bad. The scheme is bad. They can't cause turnovers. They can't cover. They can't tackle. They can't swat down passes. They can't stop the run. There is not a single redeeming quality for our defensive unit.

wow! overreact much? first laugh that i have had since this disasterous loss. Thanks for that!

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:23 AM

Either way, our defense is so bad it's just not even funny. They do nothing right. The coaching is bad. The scheme is bad. They can't cause turnovers. They can't cover. They can't tackle. They can't swat down passes. They can't stop the run. There is not a single redeeming quality for our defensive unit.


Meh, going a lil overboard

Put Martin back and I kind of agree on Beast... time to put Luke in the middle

Gamble wasnt picked on, Norman was and had a few good plays, a few bad ones

And of course our pass rush stalled a few of their drives

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:24 AM

It's not only the 4th and 1...it was the horried clock managemnet at the end of the 1st half (which still is bleeding over from last season....clock management....)

I knew McFail sucked, Chud is ambititous in his play calling, but now...I am about to board the yea... RR sucks as a head coach train.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:26 AM

It's not only the 4th and 1...it was the horried clock managemnet at the end of the 1st half (which still is bleeding over from last season....clock management....)

I knew McFail sucked, Chud is ambititous in his play calling, but now...I am about to board the yea... RR sucks as a head coach train.

yea i was pissed about the lax effort at the end of the half, but in actuality, had we used timeouts, we would have ultimately just punted them the ball back with significant time.

then, it would have been the opposite fanatical reaction, "oh we should have run out the clock"

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:36 AM

I may be going overboard saying that our defense is the worst ever you're right. But when your team has TEN DAYS to prepare for a division rival you've got plenty of film of, and they still put 30 points on you, you should go to JR's office on Monday and give him back your gamecheck because you poo the bed. You can try and find silver linings because a few guys (finally) showed up, but points are all that matter, and you have up 30. You let a guy drive 70 yards in 36 seconds without even needing to take a timeout OR spike the ball. If that isn't a complete disaster I don't know what is. I can't think of a group of guys failing at their jobs in such grand fashion.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:39 AM

i agree completely with the grantland premise


ETA: as io mentioned yesterday what is even worse than the no balls call to punt was that I did not see one player pleading to go for it. Am I wrong here? Did anyone see any of our offensive players asking for the chance to go for that last 18 inches (pre-measurement)? 99 out of 100 times that a player gets hit wher cam did on the arm the ball is coming out. We all know that nakamura is a poor man's poor man. I hate the tricky dick, cutesy chud offense going wildcat at the top of that last series and I hate a lot of missed tackles that happened all over the field yesterday. But if we don't have our QB, line, backs, TE's, SOMEBODY screaming at Riv to go for that yard and seal that divisional road game upset, we have got some weaknesses a new OC, new safety, and a whole week of tackling rodeo simply will not fix.


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