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[carolina-chuck]

Well I'm done and looking toward next year. Hopefully we can bring in a new HC and a new GM next year. Wade Phillips or Mike Zimmer? lol Here's my outlook for this year, 2013 FA, and 2013 mock draft. Don't hate! Im just projecting and looking forward. You dont like it, cry about it. (Let me know what yall think)

2012 Record: 4-12
TB-L
NO-W
NYG-L
ATL-L
SEA-L
DAL-L
CHI-L
WAS-W
DEN-W
TB-L
PHI-L
KC-L
ATL-L
SD-L
OAK-W
NO-L

Biggest needs: FS, WR, DT, DE, CB

Free Agency Addition(s): Dashon Goldson (FS) or Kenny Phillips (SS) - Phillips at FS or move Godfrey back to FS.


2013 Carolina Panthers Mock Draft:
With a 4-12 record, we'll be holding a draft pick in the top 7. With no 3rd rounder and little picks next year, Hurney or our new GM will find a team to trade down and add another 2nd rd. A team will definitely wants to trade up for a player like David Amerson, Star, or Hankins.

I'm only mocking the first 4 rounds.

(RD.1) Jonathan Jenkins NT, UGA 6'3" 358lbs

By trading down and adding a second 2nd rounder, we'll be picking around the middle of the pack in the 1st. By then, Star and Hankins (DTs) should be gone already. Jon Jenkins is the best DT left on the board. Jenkins would be a steal and will fullfill a big need on our defense. We haven't had a legit DT since Jenkins left and at some point the DT position will have to be address in the draft. This is the time to do so.

(RD.2) Terrance Williams WR, Baylor 6'2" 205lbs

Smitty is still performing at a high level but is aging by the minute. Lafell is not the answer for this offense and to help Cam lead this team toward the future. Williams is a tall lengthy reciever with a vertical speed to create separation downfield. He possess the play making ability with the ball in his hands. It would be excited to see Cam throwing the ball to Williams every week.

(RD.2) John Simon DE/DT, OSU 6'2" 270lbs

Whether Rivera is the coach next year or not, I want to see this team move toward a 3-4 Defense. By drafting Jon Jenkins in the 1st, John Simon would help move this defense closer to a 3-4. Simon is a "BEAST" coming off the line. He has a relentless motor and is a force at putting pressure on the QB. Simon is physically gifted with a compact build who can overpower his opponent and a great tackler; something we lack.

I see another "J.J. Watt" clone when looking at Simon. I think Simon can be a Watt type of player and a great DE in a 34 D.

(RD.4) D.J. Swearinger FS, USC 5'11" 210lbs

Assuming we can add either Dashon Goldson or Kenny Phillips, we take Swearinger in the 4th to add depth to our weakest position. He'll be a great addition and will help solidify our biggest need on the team. Naka and Martin is not the answer and both should be let go at the end of the season. We won't be seeing Roddy White getting behind the defense anymore.

If we switch to a 3-4 Defense,
-trade James Anderson for anything
-move CJ to OLB

LE: Dwan Edwards, Greg Hardy
NT: Jon Jenkins, Ron Edwards
RE: John Simon, Frank Kearse
LOLB: Frank Alexander, Thomas Davis, Thomas Keiser
ILB: Jon Beason, Jason Phillips, Kenny Onatolu
ILB: Luke Kuechly, Jordan Senn
ROLB: Charles Johnson, Antwan Applewhite
LCB: Chris Gamble,
RCB: Josh Norman, Captain Munnerlyn
SS: Charles Godfrey, D.J. Campbell
FS: Dashon Goldson, D.J. Swearinger, Colin Jones

[carolina-chuck]

I can't see us retaining Sean McDermott after this year whether Rivera is or is not the HC next year.
One name I really like is Keith Butler, a LB coach from Pittsburgh. Hes an uprising DC that is just waiting for his time to come, but has yet to bc of the legendary Dick LeBeau. He was sought not long ago by Arizona but chose to stay by LeBeau's side. It may be time where Butler just decides its too long to wait for his time in Pittsburgh.

I would not doubt the switch to a 34 defense soon if Rivera is still the HC. Chico will run out of excuses to use at some point. It may come down to Rivera pointing the finger at McDermott and switching to a 34 D with Rivera calling the D or hiring someone to. Especially how Rivera came from a 34 in SD. Forget about his time of a 43 in Chicago. If he decides to hire someone else, Butler is the guy. Butler knows the ins and outs of a 3-4 D. Coached behind and seen everything from the best, "LeBeau". Keith Butler would be a great addition to this Defense!

[SCMunnerlyn1]

(RD.4) D.J. Swearinger FS, USC 5'11" 210lbs

Assuming we can add either Dashon Goldson or Kenny Phillips, we take Swearinger in the 4th to add depth to our weakest position. He'll be a great addition and will help solidify our biggest need on the team. Naka and Martin is not the answer and both should be let go at the end of the season. We won't be seeing Roddy White getting behind the defense anymore.

I don't think he'll last that long. He will be All-SEC by the end of the year. He's already the best Defensive back on a team notorious as being DBU and soon to be DLU .. they send DB's into the NFL yearly. I think he's taken late 2nd early 3rd at the latest.

[Delhommey]

Trading down to get a second is not realistic.

[Kurb]

Trading down to get a second is not realistic.

Nothing here is realistic.

[carolina-chuck]

Trading down to get a second is not realistic.

You're telling me that if we lands a top 7 pick next year that it's impossible to find a team to trade with for another 2nd?

Next year draft is stocked with couple playmaking prospects. I'm sure a team is going to move up for a talent like Amerson, Keenan Allen, Hunter etc.

[carolina-chuck]

Nothing here is realistic.

I guess. I wanna see a realistic mock draft from you Kurb. And not just by taking a safety in the 1st.

[carolina-chuck]

I don't think he'll last that long. He will be All-SEC by the end of the year. He's already the best Defensive back on a team notorious as being DBU and soon to be DLU .. they send DB's into the NFL yearly. I think he's taken late 2nd early 3rd at the latest.

True. But you never know bc the draft next year is going to be stocked with a lot of really good Safties. And every year someone always fall off. Remember the UNC Saftey a year or two back that went undrafted. Forgot his name.

But if Swearinger is not on the board, Matt Elam of UF would be a good pick.

[Delhommey]

You're telling me that if we lands a top 7 pick next year that it's impossible to find a team to trade with for another 2nd?

Next year draft is stocked with couple playmaking prospects. I'm sure a team is going to move up for a talent like Amerson, Keenan Allen, Hunter etc.

Only one trade that I know of netted a 2nd (Cowboys moving up from 14th to 6th to grab their had-to-have CB) last year.

Trading up is cheap.

[Kurb]

I guess. I wanna see a realistic mock draft from you Kurb. And not just by taking a safety in the 1st.

Sorry for being so harsh.

My point being Rivera isn't getting fired and a trade for a second is pretty rare.
I usually don't start tinkering with Mocks until middle of the season.

[carolina-chuck]

Only one trade that I know of netted a 2nd (Cowboys moving up from 14th to 6th to grab their had-to-have CB) last year.

Trading up is cheap.

Stranger things has happened.
And yea trading up in this new CBA is cheaper . Teams are willing to move up now.

[carolina-chuck]

Sorry for being so harsh.

My point being Rivera isn't getting fired and a trade for a second is pretty rare.
I usually don't start tinkering with Mocks until middle of the season.

It's all good Kurb. Just saying, if Rivera isnt fired he may look for a 34 defense or more schemes to it. You know at some point he's going to run out of excuses and switching to a 34 may be his only way to not get his @ss lit up by JR.

[Kurb]

It's all good Kurb. Just saying, if Rivera isnt fired he may look for a 34 defense or more schemes to it. You know at some point he's going to run out of excuses and switching to a 34 may be his only way to not get his @ss lit up by JR.

I usually curse people out for even suggesting it, but at least you took the time to draft players for a 3-4.

Long and short of it is it would be a massive overhaul to the D. Key players would be lost. Things would get a ton worse before they got better.

[carolina-chuck]

I usually curse people out for even suggesting it, but at least you took the time to draft players for a 3-4.

Long and short of it is it would be a massive overhaul to the D. Key players would be lost. Things would get a ton worse before they got better.

I don't think it would be a serious issue if we wanted to switch to a 34. Most of our DEs on the roster are pretty much 34 OLBs. If Robert Mathis and Mario Williams can make the change to OLB, I believe CJ can too.

All of this is just bull but if we can get guys like Jenkins and Simon, we're closer to a 34 than most people think.

The only player that wouldnt have a position on a 34 is Anderson. At this point if we wanted to switch, Anderson can be traded for almost anything.

[Kurb]

It doesn't work like that Chuck.
I can't explain it so you will understand.
Just trust me, it isn't that easy.