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[rayzor]

I could have done without Captain's god awful last second PI penalty.

or smitty's PI call.
or smitty's fumble.
or cam's fumble.

any one of those things don't happen and we probably win the game.

[Smitty Is Our Savior]

I dont know about the Armanti throw. I remember thinking if he had led Smith it would have been a TD. But his speed was very surprising.

I was thinking he had a TD had Steve not tripped.

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

or smitty's PI call.
or smitty's fumble.
or cam's fumble.

any one of those things don't happen and we probably win the game.

Lets not act like ATL didn't have miscues either.

[rayzor]

who's doing that? none of them cost them the game, tho, and it's true that the panthers could and should have won that game were it not for one of those mistakes happening at the end of the game.

not taking anything away from the falcons. they won it. they fought back at the end and capitalized on what the panthers gave them.

the panthers had that game and you i'd be shocked if your stomach didn't drop to your feet in those last couple minutes when the panthers were up by 1. both teams fought hard but at the end the panthers gave that game to the falcons who finished it.

[Captain Morgan]

Man, I truly hope so. We've had a string of horrible ones that are hurting us.

I think I read this morning that from the 2009, 2010, and 2011 draft combined,
we have one starter.

if that is true, that is staggeringly bad.

[BadMoonRising]

Panthers fans really can't ask for much more than what they saw sunday.

I felt the Panthers gave it their all and just came up short on a few bounces and that happens to all teams, if the Panthers play with the heart I saw on the field this last sunday the rest of their games, they have a real chance of sneaking to a solid winning record in the next 3/4 of the season.

The only issue is they are not in the driver seat for a their play off chances, so all you can ask from your team to do give it 100% and see how the chips fall.

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

who's doing that? none of them cost them the game, tho, and it's true that the panthers could and should have won that game were it not for one of those mistakes happening at the end of the game.

not taking anything away from the falcons. they won it. they fought back at the end and capitalized on what the panthers gave them.

the panthers had that game and you i'd be shocked if your stomach didn't drop to your feet in those last couple minutes when the panthers were up by 1. both teams fought hard but at the end the panthers gave that game to the falcons who finished it.

Forcing fumbles is a skill that the Falcons are very good at Yeah my stomach dropped just before Cam fumbled (woulda been first down to win talk about a mood swing). and when the punt got pinned on the 1. 1 minute on your own 1 with no timeouts. The blame should be on the secondary and a lot on Nakamagaeueara

[Sloth]

I think I read this morning that from the 2009, 2010, and 2011 draft combined,
we have one starter.

if that is true, that is staggeringly bad.

2009 draft
Everette Brown
Sherrod Martin
Corvey Irvin
Mike Goodson
Tony Fiammetta
Duke Robinson
Captain Munnerlyn

2010 draft
Jimmy Clausen
Brandon LaFell
Armanti Edwards
Eric Norwood
Greg Hardy
David Gettis
Tony Pike
R.J. Stanford
Robert McClain

2011 draft
Cam Newton
Terrell McClain
Sione Fua
Brandon Hogan
Kealoha Pilares
Lawrence Wilson
Zachary Williams
Lee Ziemba

Captain from 2009, LaFell and Hardy from 2010, Newton from 2011. Everyone else is gone, hurt, benched or rotational.

[rayzor]

2009 draft
Everette Brown
Sherrod Martin
Corvey Irvin
Mike Goodson
Tony Fiammetta
Duke Robinson
Captain Munnerlyn

2010 draft
Jimmy Clausen
Brandon LaFell
Armanti Edwards
Eric Norwood
Greg Hardy
David Gettis
Tony Pike
R.J. Stanford
Robert McClain

2011 draft
Cam Newton
Terrell McClain
Sione Fua
Brandon Hogan
Kealoha Pilares
Lawrence Wilson
Zachary Williams
Lee Ziemba

Captain from 2009, LaFell from 2010, Newton from 2011. Everyone else is gone, hurt, benched or rotational.

hardy is a "starter" isn't he?

still pretty sad that we have pretty much as many starters from this years draft as we did the previous 3. i just hope we've turned a corner here.

[Icege]

Hardy, LaFell, Cam current starters.

Martin, Munnerlyn, Gettis former starters with Martin potentially starting again and Captain as the NB.

The first rule about Jimmy Clausen is do not talk about Jimmy Clausen.

[Sloth]

hardy is a "starter" isn't he?

still pretty sad that we have pretty much as many starters from this years draft as we did the previous 3. i just hope we've turned a corner here.

Yeah, missed him, thanks. Edited my post.

[Sloth]

Also, if you want to cheese a little, Byron Bell is probably the second best pick from 2011 and looking good this year.

UDFA though.

[Fox007]

I dont know about the Armanti throw. I remember thinking if he had led Smith it would have been a TD. But his speed was very surprising.

Come on now. I am as anti AE as you can get but that throw was fine.

Steve Smith tripped up on the play, they even threw a flag for DPI but picked it up due to incidental contact.

If Smith doesn't trip, he makes that catch.

[Rubi]

Our play call is a liability in my opinion. Calling a pass play that is meant to pick up 15-20 yards on plays like 3rd and 2 when we have one of the best running games in the league is just dumb in my opinion. Why not give it to Stew and let him earn that extension? We all know Stew is a lock for at least 2 yards most of the time..And if they absolutely just aren't feeling the run there...a short, SAFE pass to Olsen or Smith is a smarter call rather than the heaves I see almost week in and week out. And don't even get me started with the big Matt Ryan throw at the end of the game on their one yard line...... And I also hate the fact that Chud likes to run out of the shotgun as much as he does. I understand the option will work in this offense..but if Cam Newton is not tucking it for around 5-15 yds.(once or twice a game so far)..usually, D-Will is going straight up the middle for absolutely no gain. J-Stew would be our best option for the play..But I just think they should run out of the I-Formation, or have Cam under the center more. I know Chud likes to display his wizardry, but we have the ability and players to beat teams the good ol fashion way. His offense probably confuses the poo out of the younger players, which has probably messed up their development a little bit.
I also wish they'd put Keek in the middle..his natural position. Jon can play outside just as good as he can the middle..(Which doesn't look as good as before his injury, sadly)..and have Thomas rotate with Jon..which works well since they are both coming off season ending injuries..
Naka is not athletic and he's slow. The only thing I've seen him do good is that interception..and the judo throw he did on someone in the Saints game.
If we didn't have Charles Johnson to anchor up half the sacks Sunday, you all wouldn't think we looked as good as we did defensively ...Michael still burnt us and we made Matty's self esteem so high at the end of the game, he was screaming at our players like they were his bitches. I think it comes down to our Staff. This team needs a spine...some structure... And it seems Coach Ron Rivera can't or just hasn't gotten a hold of this team like he should. We need a leader....and he either needs to be that...or we need to find one. You can't have a young team the way we do without a greaybeard of a leader coach that's going to push our talent down the right path.

Solid. I agree

[rayzor]

Our play call is a liability in my opinion. Calling a pass play that is meant to pick up 15-20 yards on plays like 3rd and 2 when we have one of the best running games in the league is just dumb in my opinion. Why not give it to Stew and let him earn that extension?

We all know Stew is a lock for at least 2 yards most of the time..And if they absolutely just aren't feeling the run there...a short, SAFE pass to Olsen or Smith is a smarter call rather than the heaves I see almost week in and week out. And don't even get me started with the big Matt Ryan throw at the end of the game on their one yard line......

And I also hate the fact that Chud likes to run out of the shotgun as much as he does. I understand the option will work in this offense..but if Cam Newton is not tucking it for around 5-15 yds.(once or twice a game so far)..usually, D-Will is going straight up the middle for absolutely no gain. J-Stew would be our best option for the play..But I just think they should run out of the I-Formation, or have Cam under the center more.

I know Chud likes to display his wizardry, but we have the ability and players to beat teams the good ol fashion way. His offense probably confuses the poo out of the younger players, which has probably messed up their development a little bit.

I also wish they'd put Keek in the middle..his natural position. Jon can play outside just as good as he can the middle..(Which doesn't look as good as before his injury, sadly)..and have Thomas rotate with Jon..which works well since they are both coming off season ending injuries..

Naka is not athletic and he's slow. The only thing I've seen him do good is that interception..and the judo throw he did on someone in the Saints game.

If we didn't have Charles Johnson to anchor up half the sacks Sunday, you all wouldn't think we looked as good as we did defensively ...Michael still burnt us and we made Matty's self esteem so high at the end of the game, he was screaming at our players like they were his bitches. I think it comes down to our Staff.

This team needs a spine...some structure... And it seems Coach Ron Rivera can't or just hasn't gotten a hold of this team like he should. We need a leader....and he either needs to be that...or we need to find one. You can't have a young team the way we do without a greaybeard of a leader coach that's going to push our talent down the right path.

sorry...had to break it up a bit to read.

i agree with a lot of that but cam playing under center more and out of the shotgun a lot less...just isn't going to happen. the league is moving more tot eh shotgun. it isn't just here. now i do think we should be running out of the pistol more because it gives most of the benefit of being in the shotgun but still helps out the run game by the QB being a bit in front.

re: the team needing a spine, i think it found a lot more of one in that game against the falcons than it has all year. i think that cam needs to be the emotional leader of this team, though, much like guys like ray lewis is in baltimore. cam has that power and that potential. he just needs to do a better job about firing other guys up rather than him requiring it so much himself. i think that comes with time, though.