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[venom]

Do you guys actually believe these unemployment figures? These numbers are always doctored so hard, and in no way represent the actuality of the situation....I figured you guys wouldve caught on to all this by now.

[stirs]

That is the whole point of the discussion

[twylyght]

I am still waiting for the usual monthly correction in the wrong direction as has been on par for the past few months

http://www.americant...suspicious.html

[cookinwithgas]

And yet you blamed Bush and anyone who ever voted with him on the right for the collapse at the end of his term, when the Congress was strongly in control of the Democrats. You know, Pelosi and Reed? Ring a bell? As Ronald Reagan once said, Democrats do NOT spend like drunken sailors, simply because drunken sailors use their own money.

I blamed Bush for getting us into two unpaid for wars with a tax break for rich people along with a Medicare giveaway.

And I was right. All of them were his ideas. Yes he shamed the Dems into voting for the wars except for stand up people like Kerry, who was Swiftboated for his honesty.

Oh and all of those things? First Term. Shut up.

[FurdTurgason]

I blamed Bush for getting us into two unpaid for wars with a tax break for rich people along with a Medicare giveaway.

And I was right. All of them were his ideas. Yes he shamed the Dems into voting for the wars except for stand up people like Kerry, who was Swiftboated for his honesty.

Oh and all of those things? First Term. Shut up.

Would Bush have gotten us into those wars if Clinton had taken care of Bin Laden when he had the chance? No? Allright then, YOU shut up!

Meat 7, Cookinwithoutgas 6.

[beach]

Would Bush have gotten us into those wars if Clinton had taken care of Bin Laden when he had the chance? No? Allright then, YOU shut up!

Meat 7, Cookinwithoutgas 6.

Wait a tic...off-topic...Are you Meat?

[FurdTurgason]

Wait a tic...off-topic...Are you Meat?

No. As Nightwing is to Batman, I am to Meat. Meat stood for all that is right in this world, and I am here to carry on his legacy.

[beach]

No. As Nightwing is to Batman, I am to Meat. Meat stood for all that is right in this world, and I am here to carry on his legacy.

haha I gotta admit I chuckled a tad

[Jase]

Found this interesting

If the same % of americans were participating in labor force (either holding a job, or attempting to find a job) as when Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

So for those of you balking about all of the people who have given up not being counted, that effect on the rate is almost 3%.

[stirs]

Interesting article from Welch in WSJ today further questioning the numbers.

Phone caller "did you do anything and make money this week?"
Recipient-- "I baby sitted for two hours"

Phone caller--part time job found

[MadHatter]

Found this interesting

If the same % of americans were participating in labor force (either holding a job, or attempting to find a job) as when Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

So for those of you balking about all of the people who have given up not being counted, that effect on the rate is almost 3%.

Exactly. Apples to Apples, the unemployment numbers are significantly worse than when Obama took office.

Waiting from Zod to come in and try to tell us how much better the economy is now than before.

First the author of the article bashing Romney's tax plan came out and said that the Dems are totally misquoting his study....now massive holes are shot into their jobs numbers.

The Dems are getting exposed for what they are.....empty suits whose entitlement/spend/socialistic polices do not work.

[twylyght]

One of my co-workers was speaking with one of his old friends from Michigan who works at GM. According to him, they work on the Volt and haven't been doing anything for the past two weeks but playing cards as production has been shut down once again. They keep asking if they should keep coming back, but are being told to sit tight. He said that they are getting word that the plant is prepping to be moved to China.

Anecdotal evidence and hearsay, so take it as you will.

[Panthro]

I heard they were shipping it to a Muslim country...

[twylyght]

Apparently, this kind of reasoning was important and relevant in 2003

http://www.nytimes.c...l?smid=fb-share

[Tensor]

Found this interesting

If the same % of americans were participating in labor force (either holding a job, or attempting to find a job) as when Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

So for those of you balking about all of the people who have given up not being counted, that effect on the rate is almost 3%.

Is % of American population really a fair comparison? The fastest growing segment of the U.S. population is people over 65. Retirement takes many of them out of the workforce. This segment has grown by more than 15% since 2000 and the rate of growth is increasing more rapidly now.

Maybe the study accounts for that, I don't know. If it doesn't, then that is not really a fair representation either.