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#25 mwright350

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:20 AM

Of course it's the coaches.

I didn't know this was up for debate.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:24 AM

It's not just coaching though, it's a collective suckery involving the entire team. Steve Smith is crying for the ball on every play. Our offensive formation on every play is from shotgun like we have Peyton Manning. Our two 1st round running backs haven't been producing poo. I blame the offensive scheme for that and not handing the fuging ball off the way Fox wanted to.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:28 AM

It's not just coaching though, it's a collective suckery involving the entire team. Steve Smith is crying for the ball on every play. Our offensive formation on every play is from shotgun like we have Peyton Manning. Our two 1st round running backs haven't been producing poo. I blame the offensive scheme for that and not handing the fuging ball off the way Fox wanted to.


All of the things you listed there can be corrected with proper coaching. Smitty would behave. Offensive playcalling would be less shitty. Our billion dollar backfield would be used properly and often enough.

On defense fine - we do have a lack of talent but even they are not playing to potential.

Every team has problems. Most of ours would be hidden if we had better coaches / office staff.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:34 AM

OP: Cam's accuracy is fine. Did you see it coming into Sunday? Near 70%

The playcalling is worst in the NFL.

Bah fugit


i agree...he was way off today, that throw to the ground on 4th down...cmon man

the atl game, he played a perfect game minus the fumble....It was this game and the tampa game where he struggled....going back to last season, he sometimes makes throws that make me go, wtf...but I think it is on coaching to work with him on accuracy, footwork, decision making etc....

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:43 AM

Your accuracy tends to drop when you're getting slammed to the ground and catching helmets on your chin after every throw. His ability and usually execution is still elite, in every aspect, even with the occasional flub in footwork... Stats up through this week show he actually is improving (there was a thread on it)... The problem is the playcalling.

The funny thing is, when we were all running around proclaiming Chud to be genius last year, none of us took time to ask why he was back as a TE coach where we could hire him and not an OC or HC. Why? Because he did the same thing in Cleveland. One good season, opponents have a year's worth of film on him, make adjustments accordingly, and Chud just keeps being Chud.

When we're sitting and watching a game, and you, as a fan, are able to call out what we're going to do on any given play 3-5 times in one drive, something is wrong. And opposing defenses definitely know what's coming. He's doing that to Cam, getting him beat up, and not giving him a fighting chance when he does step back to throw. It's really unfair.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:44 AM

i agree...he was way off today, that throw to the ground on 4th down...cmon man

the atl game, he played a perfect game minus the fumble....It was this game and the tampa game where he struggled....going back to last season, he sometimes makes throws that make me go, wtf...but I think it is on coaching to work with him on accuracy, footwork, decision making etc....


He literally got hit on every pass attempt vs Seattle. Tough to stand in the pocket with perfect technique when you're getting destroyed all game long

Joe Adams fumbles
Worst tackling team in the NFL
Inconsistency
Play calling
Scheme

It all goes back to having a dogshit coaching staff. It's the same stuff over and over. It never gets fixed

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:48 AM

Your accuracy tends to drop when you're getting slammed to the ground and catching helmets on your chin after every throw. His ability and usually execution is still elite, in every aspect, even with the occasional flub in footwork... Stats up through this week show he actually is improving (there was a thread on it)... The problem is the playcalling.

The funny thing is, when we were all running around proclaiming Chud to be genius last year, none of us took time to ask why he was back as a TE coach where we could hire him and not an OC or HC. Why? Because he did the same thing in Cleveland. One good season, opponents have a year's worth of film on him, make adjustments accordingly, and Chud just keeps being Chud.

When we're sitting and watching a game, and you, as a fan, are able to call out what we're going to do on any given play 3-5 times in one drive, something is wrong. And opposing defenses definitely know what's coming. He's doing that to Cam, getting him beat up, and not giving him a fighting chance when he does step back to throw. It's really unfair.


Pretty much this. Not nearly enough attention is being paid to the fact that we're predictable in our trickery and Cam was hit more times than he completed a pass today.

The load is not entirely off his shoulders but when you're getting beat up all game things tend to suffer and you regress.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:51 AM

I hate to burst the bubble of this thread, but it's coaching AND talent, lol. Yeah, that's where this team is.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:24 AM

Coaching is not the reason Cam fumbled last week...coaching is not the reason Smitty fumbled last week...coaching is not the reason Cam was overthrowing everything tonight...coaching is not the reason DWill fumbled tonight...coaching is not the reason the WR's and RB's kept dropping passes...coaching us not the reason that Can threw the ball into the turf when he had a wide open TE 5 yds in front of him.

This team has talent, but they are not executing.

Coaching has been lacking on this team, but that us only a small part of the problem.


lack of execution = lack of coaching....

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:47 AM

Gotta disagree.

There are issues with the coaching, but you can't pin all our problems there.

Plenty of issues can be traced to talent, which essentially means traced to the front office.

No, coaching is far from blameless, but there's plenty of blame to go around.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:50 AM

I can't wait till the day I wake up to this turd Rivera being fired.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:08 AM

I can't wait till the day I wake up to this turd Rivera being fired.


Rivera isn't responsible for all of the coaching problems this team has. I'm not terribly happy with the job his staff is doing but the blame for the coaching problems goes to his staff as a whole (for the most part).

There's also the fact that our front office has utterly neglected a few positions to consider. I do think the problem right now is largely with the coaching staff (even with our odd talent load we could be winning more games if we simply coached better) but there is some front office blame to be had.