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Why firing Hurney has to happen in 2012


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#16 Fox007

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:07 PM

The fact Hurney doesn't have a contract is telling enough.



The fact that he still has a job right now is too.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:34 PM

Can i haz your panther jerseys


don't own any jerseys. never will no matter what. its almost like asking for an autograph. kinda lame imo.

#18 Snake

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:32 PM

Its clear his plan has failed and his talent for picking coaches is hit or miss.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:43 PM

I put my huddle acct on the table that Hurney will be gone after this year. Rivera? Dno.

It will happen the sec the season is over.

#20 PantherBlue

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:48 PM

Hurney has pretty much made this organization a team that could easily be one in a discussion of moving to LA if it's owner weren't so ingrained in the Carolinas. It is truly the laughing stock of the NFL. This is what our GM has done for us.

But I will be surprised, as most of you, if JR cans Hurney. Maybe he thinks Hurney is going to somehow take the Panthers back to the Superbowl... JR is dreaming if that is the case.

Or maybe he is being overly loyal to Hurney because Hurney was around when we went to the first SB and lost the the Patriots. I hope this isn't the case either or we will never be a consistanly winning organization as long as JR owns the team, IMO.

I'm disgusted with some, I mean alot, of draft choices, trades, players passed up, etc., that Hurney has made. We have talent on this team and with all the mediocre and downright horrible season we've had over the last several season, we should be a Superbowl contender by now.

#21 Snake

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:53 PM

I put my huddle acct on the table that Hurney will be gone after this year. Rivera? Dno.

It will happen the sec the season is over.


Well at least I want have to hear your poo for a while

#22 carolina-chuck

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:06 AM

Well at least I want have to hear your poo for a while


You still will bc he'll be gone. And if he doesnt, I won't have to hear your $hit too

#23 Mr. Scot

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:52 AM

Not betting on it happening.

My alternative has been to see him promoted to a figurehead position (Vice President in Charge of Whatever) and the GM spot given to a true 'football guy' whether it be rising star or retread.

Not really betting on that either, though, if I'm being honest :(

#24 Ivan The Awesome

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:00 AM

I've defended this man plenty. I think the needle has moved now, Hurney has to go. The more and more I see the bad he's done the more and more I get frustrated and angry. Not even the hits he's had cushion the blow. I'm starting to think he actually didn't know if the player he drafted that was a hit was actually going to be a hit. It's like he's pinning the tail on the donkey..with the draft and FA pick ups.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:04 AM

I wouldn't bet on him being fired myself. I don't think he really needs to be in charge of personnel decisions or really be a GM at all but I also don't think he's likely to be shown the door after this season (for several reasons - not the least of which is this is probably not that attractive a job until a few contracts are closer to being over - especially if NFL buzz gets to be that Rivera is in jeopardy

I wouldn't mind him being given a position in the organization that was...something other than GM. But I'd see the same problem. Not a very attractive job plus JR has to pull the trigger on cutting Hurney loose and my gut tells me that's just not...likely.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:09 AM

The Panthers have a 5th year option of Cam Newton's contract. We will most assuredley trigger that option.

Per ESPN’s Adam Schefter, the Panthers have agreed on a four-year, $22 million contract with Cam Newton. The deal, which is fully guaranteed, also includes a fifth-year, non-guaranteed option worth $14 million.



Plus two years of francise tags (it should be around $19M (going by what Mannings contract gives this year) the first year and $23 (20% increase) the second years, after that it get out of hand).

To me it looks like there is a long term plan to keep Cam with a huge contract, payed for by the $10M a years we now pour into the RB position.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:18 AM

I wouldn't bet on him being fired myself. I don't think he really needs to be in charge of personnel decisions or really be a GM at all but I also don't think he's likely to be shown the door after this season (for several reasons - not the least of which is this is probably not that attractive a job until a few contracts are closer to being over - especially if NFL buzz gets to be that Rivera is in jeopardy

I wouldn't mind him being given a position in the organization that was...something other than GM. But I'd see the same problem. Not a very attractive job plus JR has to pull the trigger on cutting Hurney loose and my gut tells me that's just not...likely.


Something with a nice sounding title but little actual power would allow both he and Richardson to save some face while still doing what's right for the organization.

He's actually quite good at dealing with agents and not getting into pissing matches. If there was a way to have him do that but not have the power to set the contract numbers, I'd be all for it.



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Posted 08 October 2012 - 05:37 AM

I am going to pie every person that starts an anti-Hurney thread. Free pie from me!

#29 Anybodyhome

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 05:55 AM

"So, the question in JRs mind and everyone else's mind who has a financial stake in the Carolina Panthers is, "where do we go from here?" In the last 4 seasons we have gone 8-8, 2-14, 6-10, now we are 1-4 and don't look any better than a sub .500 team."

"Financial stakes" be damned. There is no threat of losing money here. JR has guaranteed himself a very healthy revenue stream with this team. The seats are all sold, regardless of the team's record, he makes money. No matter how bad the team plays year in- and year out, he still has money pouring into the bank.

There is no "financial stake," it's a complete no-lose situation and the ownership group led by Jerry Richardson is laughing all the way to the bank.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:08 AM

Then we really should stop spending any money whatsoever when we walk into the stadium as a fan base. No food, no beer, no merchandise, nothing.


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