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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:14 PM

There will always be "weak" fans out there... I can only speak of the Seahawks fanbase in terms of experience, but I can say if a team is under performing with a team that shouldn't, there is obviously tremendous contempt. If you look at the Panthers roster it has much better than 1-4 talent, seems like there is some pretty questionable playcalling (seahawks can relate) and I think it's more than ok for the fans to express that. Especially if they are a long time fan that has been through the ups and downs of the franchise. Saying just "the fans are the problem" is a cop out to the real situation. Yeah, there are bandwagon fans in carolina, there are those fans everywhere. If the team was performing to expectation, this issue wouldn't come up. It's just not a shocker to me I suppose. I don't think Rivera is a good coach at all, and I am pretty sure if he was gone, more "real" fans would come to the games. Same thing happened with Jim Moron Jr and the Seahawks. But I don't know the feel of Rivera among Panther fans, I would assume it's pretty negative. FO decisions DO impact not only product on the field, but fans in the stands. Thats the real problem.


Holy crap............................ a fan from another team that has a real conversation.

Thank you for stopping by you made my day.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:22 PM

Observation of a weak franchise...

Rewatch Seattle Game
Rewatch NY Game
Rewatch Tampa Game

Check all time franchise record.
Check that HS Stadium they call professional.

And no one goes? EGADS!

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:34 PM

Holy crap............................ a fan from another team that has a real conversation.

Thank you for stopping by you made my day.


I know.. Crazy those fans exist right? Seems like more people are into talking "smack" behind a computer screen than actually having an intelligent conversation. I guess thats the age we are in. haha

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 03:54 PM

I know.. Crazy those fans exist right? Seems like more people are into talking "smack" behind a computer screen than actually having an intelligent conversation. I guess thats the age we are in. haha



We deal with ants, falcons and buc fans all the time. Think about that for a second.

That said let me ask you how your fans reacted to a "smart" front office? Did they support it or did they make their voices heard?

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 04:19 PM

When we had horrible personnel moves, the fans made it known, walking out on games, planned walk outs at halftime no matter the score etc... once Jim Mora was fired more fans came to the games and the support was fantastic. Heres the problem with a staff that the "true" fans can't get behind. Those "true" fans boycott the games while the bandwagoners go to the game, just to go to the game. Leads to a false representation of a fanbase. Panther fans aren't the problem, there is a reason why those "poser" fans are there in the first place. If the fans could get behind a personnel change, I am sure the support would increase by the fans in a exponential manner. Thats what happened here.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:42 PM

If I am one of the "weak" fans, then so be it. I have not missed a home game since I bought my PSLs in late '96. I stay in my seat until 0:00 on the clock, if for no other reason than to keep an opposing fan out of my seats. Yes, I was dumb enough to turn down a NY giants fan's offer of $400 to swap my seats for his 18 rows behind me. Am I unhappy with the current state of the team, yes. The solution to the problem can be solved by one thing- winning. Until we do that consistently, our fans will remain weak...

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:07 AM

We need to create an area at the stadium for the fans actually wanting to support the team like real fans. You do not need 75.000 people to make noise 5.000 can do it or less but we need those people together and not all over the stadium.

Look I am from Denmark and my local soccer team has been playing like poo the last 5-6 years but we can still support our team because we concentrate our real fans in the same area in the stadium and let all the "family" fans sit and talk or whatever they want to do doing a game. Then maybe make the real fan areas cheaper so we make sure those areas are always filed with crazy ass fans like SCP that dude deserve cheaper tickets(PSL)

This is a video from my soccer team here in Denmark, the stadium is 1/3 the size of BoA but we have all the real fans together and could out noise our Panthers fans every day of the week:



And on the really good days we then get the whole stadium with us like this:



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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:24 AM

I hate to see fans leave early, but on Sunday for example, what evidence was there that the effort given so far would lead to a comeback? I agree our fans could be better, but we go back to the old chicken and egg debatee. Do the fans drive the players or players drive fans. I realize it helps both ways, but I've been to so many games where I paid $$$$ for my family to go, the fans were jacked and loud, and the team gives no effort, or appeared flat. That's no way to retain momentum from the crowd.

I didn't expect the super bowl this year, but I do expect enthusiasm and effort. If it's there, I just can't see it this year. I expected coaching and effort to make up for our personnel shortcomings, and boy was I mistaken.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:29 AM

Who are these idiots that go to a football game to sit the whole game? Damn country music concert has more crowd energy!


Season before last, I was told I was making too much noise. I sit and clap only. I will not risk losing my PSLs. When I can't go, I sell my tickets to whom ever. Two reasons for this. The sit and clap rule and the fact that the "ture fan" will not buy them.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:29 AM

I have owned my PSLs since the very beginning, and except for two games last year and this season, I have attended every single home game and have only witness one incident in which a spectator was asked to sit down and shut up. That was when we had obnoxious Cowboys fans who were physically assaulting some of us and we had them removed. I'm not saying it never happens, but the number of incidents of that are overly exaggerated on this board.


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