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#31 Brooklyn Bully

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

Good coaches, a GM and Owner who eventually woke up and figured out what they needed to do, solid drafting, good draft spots due to years of sucking, a young pro bowl WR, a very good QB, a destructive defense, and a young pro bowl RB that they use as their main weapon who also catches passes with ease. Good stadium and loud crowd to boot.

Basically us during our Super Bowl run but better and for real (they won't be a one-year wonder).

#32 SZ James

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

We could do this for every year - but let's take a look at their 2009 draft (a fair comparison as 4 years in the league is usually enough to see who cuts it vs. who doesn't)

1. Brian Cushing - starter
2. Connor Barwin - starter
3. Antoine Caldwell - starter
4. Glover Quin - starter
4. Anthony Hill - no longer with the team
5. James Casey - starter
6. Brice McCain - nickel corner
7. Troy Nolan - 3rd string

2. Everette Brown - colossal bust, no longer in the league
2. Sherrod Martin - currently in a rotation with the worst starting safety in football
3. Corvey Irvin - no longer in the league
4. Mike Goodson - decent player who is now a backup for the raiders
4. Tony Fiametta - cut by the panthers, is barely still in the league
5. Duke Robinson - no longer in the league
7. Captain Munnerlyn - nickel corner, occasional starter, and sadly the best player we got in this draft


God this is disgusting.

#33 Pimpdaddy

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:09 AM

They got to where they are by not bricking on 9 out of every 10 draft picks the past 6 years. They draft guys that are able to contribute at the nfl level, some even become elite. We draft guys that are out of the league in a few seasons.


Bingo!.. this is an example of building through the draft... not the bill of goods we were sold...

#34 X-Clown

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:09 AM

this is kubiak's first HC gig. he inherited a 2-14 team. he brought them up to 6-10 his first year. 8-8 his 2nd and 3rd years and didn't have a winning season until his 4th season. they didn't get into the playoffs until his 6th season and now they are considered the best in the league.

it took time and a lot of patience, but it paid off. people around here would probably have been calling for his head a long time before that because they want/feel they deserve immediate results. kubiak did nothing as far as record is concerned to show he deserved that much time but they gave it to him anyways and it's paying off.


If you ever visited the Houston Texans board before last year, they had dozens of posters with "Fire Kubiak" sigs and avs. The funny thing is that Kubiak would have likely been fired if there wasn't the threat of a lockout last year. Same thing for Marvin Lewis, and maybe even Tom Coughlin.

#35 Bj-Monster23

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:12 AM

Wow looking at that 2009 draft that was horrible. Did the Panthers even scout that year? I hate to say it and not basing my opinion on one draft but Marty really needs to go.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:20 AM

the offense is built around the run game, and they have a good defense...

...aka foxball.

...aka the Panthers, aka why use what works and we invest millions in..

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:23 AM

To a top tier unit this season? What did they do right, that obviously the panthers are doing wrong? Wish we could make that sort of turn around....


Switch to a 34 with a great DC and drafted well (Watts, Reed, Cushing, etc) and FA

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:25 AM

We could do this for every year - but let's take a look at their 2009 draft (a fair comparison as 4 years in the league is usually enough to see who cuts it vs. who doesn't)

1. Brian Cushing - starter
2. Connor Barwin - starter
3. Antoine Caldwell - starter
4. Glover Quin - starter
4. Anthony Hill - no longer with the team
5. James Casey - starter
6. Brice McCain - nickel corner
7. Troy Nolan - 3rd string

2. Everette Brown - colossal bust, no longer in the league
2. Sherrod Martin - currently in a rotation with the worst starting safety in football
3. Corvey Irvin - no longer in the league
4. Mike Goodson - decent player who is now a backup for the raiders
4. Tony Fiametta - cut by the panthers, is barely still in the league
5. Duke Robinson - no longer in the league
7. Captain Munnerlyn - nickel corner, occasional starter, and sadly the best player we got in this draft


Gah Damn!
Can I get a comparison of the 11' draft too. Take out Cam and that draft was as shitty as it comes

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:26 AM

They got to where they are by not bricking on 9 out of every 10 draft picks the past 6 years. They draft guys that are able to contribute at the nfl level, some even become elite. We draft guys that are out of the league in a few seasons.


Winner winner chicken dinner

#40 CarolinaAllDay

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:32 AM

Exactly. They traded away Mario Williams and are still one of the best teams in the league.

they also lost demeco ryans to philly.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:38 AM

Gah Damn!
Can I get a comparison of the 11' draft too. Take out Cam and that draft was as shitty as it comes


In that 2011 draft.

1. #1 Cam Newton
2. No draft pick
3. #65 Terell Mclain- Cut this year.
3. #97 Sione Fua- Still on the team.
4.#98 Brandon Hogan- Still on the team but has been injured since he been drafted.
5.#132 Keloaha Pilares- Still on the team and other Cam has been the most productive.
6.#166 Lawrence Wilson- Cut from the team last year.
7.#244 Lee Zimba- Practice squad.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:39 AM

We could do this for every year - but let's take a look at their 2009 draft (a fair comparison as 4 years in the league is usually enough to see who cuts it vs. who doesn't)

1. Brian Cushing - starter
2. Connor Barwin - starter
3. Antoine Caldwell - starter
4. Glover Quin - starter
4. Anthony Hill - no longer with the team
5. James Casey - starter
6. Brice McCain - nickel corner
7. Troy Nolan - 3rd string

2. Everette Brown - colossal bust, no longer in the league
2. Sherrod Martin - currently in a rotation with the worst starting safety in football
3. Corvey Irvin - no longer in the league
4. Mike Goodson - decent player who is now a backup for the raiders
4. Tony Fiametta - cut by the panthers, is barely still in the league
5. Duke Robinson - no longer in the league
7. Captain Munnerlyn - nickel corner, occasional starter, and sadly the best player we got in this draft


Lol holy poo. Somebody email this to feedback@panthers.nfl.com and try to get it in front of Hurney. He needs to see his own bullshit in written English. Our scouting department is ass. Although I will give them a thumbs up for Byron Bell.

#43 Mr. Scot

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:41 AM

Texans are far from an overnight success

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:51 AM

Texans are far from an overnight success


That is true, but they generally followed the trend of annually improving. We went from the worst offense in the league to one of the best, back to one of the worst...We are like a box of chocolates.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:55 AM

Texans are far from an overnight success


True, it took a lot of patience and some good drafting. You have to give there FO and coaching staff credit. In our case I see the absolute opposite. I think Hurney got us in a hole so deep it will be impossible to climb out of with him as GM. The only way for us to get out of this mess is letting Hurney go but I don't that will happen.


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