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#25 rayzor

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:56 AM

mostly a mixture of good coaching and luck in the draft.

just like a lot of teams.

It also took them years of building.

this is something that is forgotten in the OP.

OP made it sound like they went from david carr to best in the league over night. carr hasn't been with the texans for 6 years. a lot of stuff has happened since then.

btw...lots if credit has to go to kubiak for what has happened, but it was something that required a ton of patience.

this is kubiak's first HC gig. he inherited a 2-14 team. he brought them up to 6-10 his first year. 8-8 his 2nd and 3rd years and didn't have a winning season until his 4th season. they didn't get into the playoffs until his 6th season and now they are considered the best in the league.

it took time and a lot of patience, but it paid off. people around here would probably have been calling for his head a long time before that because they want/feel they deserve immediate results. kubiak did nothing as far as record is concerned to show he deserved that much time but they gave it to him anyways and it's paying off.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:56 AM

They have a GREAT defensive coordinator with with some elite pieces in their front seven. They have a decent defensive backfield which doesn't have to cover as long due to their front. Offensively, they have a dual threat every down running back, who could be the league MVP when all is said and done. They have a great quarterback with one of the top five wide receivers in the game, and an underrated TE. Their line is strong in both run blocking and pass protection. Their F.O. has hit a ton of home runs in the draft, and they haven't been forced to overpay to keep players because they can't replace them in the draft....


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:00 AM

i will add, tho, that the texans got themselves a new GM to help turn the team around after the '06 draft.

they also didn't keep around beloved players at the expense of building the team.

they let williams go and used that money on solid vet FAs and drafted well.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:00 AM

its time marty gtfo and he should have when we let go of fox.

We will not be truly rebuilding in another fashion until we have a new gm and new scouting dept.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:02 AM

its time marty gtfo and he should have when we let go of fox.

We will not be truly rebuilding in another fashion until we have a new gm and new scouting dept.

i think the college scouting department earned a pass with this past draft.

i'm not sure scouting is the problem.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:04 AM

just because they got lucky with some draft picks doesnt excuse the past ones. You dont make a right with 7 wrongs.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

Good coaches, a GM and Owner who eventually woke up and figured out what they needed to do, solid drafting, good draft spots due to years of sucking, a young pro bowl WR, a very good QB, a destructive defense, and a young pro bowl RB that they use as their main weapon who also catches passes with ease. Good stadium and loud crowd to boot.

Basically us during our Super Bowl run but better and for real (they won't be a one-year wonder).

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

We could do this for every year - but let's take a look at their 2009 draft (a fair comparison as 4 years in the league is usually enough to see who cuts it vs. who doesn't)

1. Brian Cushing - starter
2. Connor Barwin - starter
3. Antoine Caldwell - starter
4. Glover Quin - starter
4. Anthony Hill - no longer with the team
5. James Casey - starter
6. Brice McCain - nickel corner
7. Troy Nolan - 3rd string

2. Everette Brown - colossal bust, no longer in the league
2. Sherrod Martin - currently in a rotation with the worst starting safety in football
3. Corvey Irvin - no longer in the league
4. Mike Goodson - decent player who is now a backup for the raiders
4. Tony Fiametta - cut by the panthers, is barely still in the league
5. Duke Robinson - no longer in the league
7. Captain Munnerlyn - nickel corner, occasional starter, and sadly the best player we got in this draft


God this is disgusting.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:09 AM

They got to where they are by not bricking on 9 out of every 10 draft picks the past 6 years. They draft guys that are able to contribute at the nfl level, some even become elite. We draft guys that are out of the league in a few seasons.


Bingo!.. this is an example of building through the draft... not the bill of goods we were sold...

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:09 AM

this is kubiak's first HC gig. he inherited a 2-14 team. he brought them up to 6-10 his first year. 8-8 his 2nd and 3rd years and didn't have a winning season until his 4th season. they didn't get into the playoffs until his 6th season and now they are considered the best in the league.

it took time and a lot of patience, but it paid off. people around here would probably have been calling for his head a long time before that because they want/feel they deserve immediate results. kubiak did nothing as far as record is concerned to show he deserved that much time but they gave it to him anyways and it's paying off.


If you ever visited the Houston Texans board before last year, they had dozens of posters with "Fire Kubiak" sigs and avs. The funny thing is that Kubiak would have likely been fired if there wasn't the threat of a lockout last year. Same thing for Marvin Lewis, and maybe even Tom Coughlin.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:12 AM

Wow looking at that 2009 draft that was horrible. Did the Panthers even scout that year? I hate to say it and not basing my opinion on one draft but Marty really needs to go.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:20 AM

the offense is built around the run game, and they have a good defense...

...aka foxball.

...aka the Panthers, aka why use what works and we invest millions in..