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Coach Chud Believes the 4th and 1 call was the right one


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#16 beastson

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:32 AM

I dont get how it was a good call lol. Rolling out on the 1 yd line where the back of the endzone is an extra defender. Its a terrible call and thats why it failed

This is just same thing as last game where we punted and it was on the 1 yard line. We didnt know it would land on the 1 yard line. We didn't know Hartstock (who?) would be open... in fact he got open not by design but by thats what happened when you roll out and people trying to cover people

Run the ball in

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:33 AM

TE was wide open so the play call was good if the throw was on target.



A good play call doesn't have the QB under heavy pressure in a must win situation.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:37 AM

Two of the 4 downs from within the 6 yard line were runs and the final one was a rollout where Newton had the option to run.


1 run was with Cam which is fine. Then we line up shotgun, audible into a single back formation with Dwill in the backfield. (Not a goal line power runner) Obvious loss of 3. Could we have made it any easier for the D to know what play we were going to run? Then a nice pass to Murphy. (I wish he would have had more awarness as to where the goal line was or atleast reached for it. Then of course the failed roll out with half a yard to go.

Play calls make no sense sorry. Personel on the field really didn't make much sense either. The evidence just keeps piling up that these coaches are retarded. Hell I am almost starting to think that Chud and Rivera are almost bigger problems than McDerp.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:39 AM

I have no issue with the call.

The Seahawks had shown on previous plays that they expected, and were prepared to deal with, a quarterback run. A better thrown pass on that play and we win.

Plenty of issues with the current offensive approach in general, but not that play call


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:39 AM

Two of the 4 downs from within the 6 yard line were runs and the final one was a rollout where Newton had the option to run.


Yet none of those were from inside the 1 yard line, where your receivers are all bunched in the end zone, making it that much harder to get open. We're built as a power running team and we're not doing it... not even trying it, which is what makes me wonder what's going on.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:40 AM

A good play call doesn't have the QB under heavy pressure in a must win situation.


OL play had a hand in it as well. They were Swiss cheese all day. Execution by 11 starters and the play works.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:42 AM

1 run was with Cam which is fine. Then we line up shotgun, audible into a single back formation with Dwill in the backfield. (Not a goal line power runner) Obvious loss of 3. Could we have made it any easier for the D to know what play we were going to run? Then a nice pass to Murphy. (I wish he would have had more awarness as to where the goal line was or atleast reached for it. Then of course the failed roll out with half a yard to go.

Play calls make no sense sorry. Personel on the field really didn't make much sense either. The evidence just keeps piling up that these coaches are retarded. Hell I am almost starting to think that Chud and Rivera are almost bigger problems than McDerp.


This guy and Zod, actually have cognitive ability.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:42 AM

Yet none of those were from inside the 1 yard line, where your receivers are all bunched in the end zone, making it that much harder to get open. We're built as a power running team and we're not doing it... not even trying it, which is what makes me wonder what's going on.


We are not built as a power running team. We aren't built as anything. There little to no chance of running up the gut with our line against their defensive line.

The TE got open, Cam blew the throw.


I'm not defending the coaching in it's entirety, I'm saying the final series failed because our players were outplayed in my opinion.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:44 AM

A good play call doesn't have the QB under heavy pressure in a must win situation.


it was a must-win situation regardless of the playcall; any playcall was going to be a heavy-pressure scenario due simply to the circumstances.

playcall was fine. guy got open. cam threw the pass in the dirt when it should've been a touchdown to hartsock.

chud is to blame for a lot of things, but not for this.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:49 AM

Yea, the power running team tag is a bit wishful thinking. Gross is undersized, Kalil is undersized, Hangartner is undersized, Silatolu is a rookie. Bell is the only o lineman we have that is 320lbs +. Without researching numbers I'd bet most of our yards are gained on the outside and not up the gut. Stewart is a power runner but he gets his yards on his own after contact. Not sure what we are but we are not a power running team today.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:53 AM

Power running teams don't dick around with the option for a good portion of their runs.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:53 AM

it was a must-win situation regardless of the playcall; any playcall was going to be a heavy-pressure scenario due simply to the circumstances.

playcall was fine. guy got open. cam threw the pass in the dirt when it should've been a touchdown to hartsock.

chud is to blame for a lot of things, but not for this.


In a sense Chud and the coaches are to blame. IIRC Rivera and Chud said that Cam has issues with short finesse passes like screens and slants. I guess possibly due to footwork and such. So if the coaches know this is an issue for Cam, why make that playcall when the game is on the line?

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:56 AM

The play was not the problem. The fact that Cam threw the ball like a girl would seem to be the issue.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:57 AM

Have to admit it... Cam blew it!


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:59 AM

We are not built as a power running team. We aren't built as anything. There little to no chance of running up the gut with our line against their defensive line.

The TE got open, Cam blew the throw.


I'm not defending the coaching in it's entirety, I'm saying the final series failed because our players were outplayed in my opinion.


Power running teams don't dick around with the option for a good portion of their runs.


We could argue about the power running thing, but there's no point... the offense with our $120 million backfield is built to be a running offense... I mean, what other weapons have we got, aside from Smitty than our RBs. Olsen was completely forgotten this past week.

I've already said that the players made mistakes on that play... no question. I just think it was the wrong play call from the 1 yard line. The whole game, and hell, the whole season (as you pointed out) we have run the option-read more than anything else. We're not using our RBs like we should and it's become a trend over 5 games.


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