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Of all the mistakes Hurney has made Rivera is the worst.

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Not really sure that a "competent"HC even wants to work in Charlotte.... one look at the fanbase and how they call for the guillotines would scare anyone away

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Not really sure that a "competent"HC even wants to work in Charlotte.... one look at the fanbase and how they call for the guillotines would scare anyone away

lol you really need to get a better idea of what a critical fanbase actually is

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Jerry isn't cheap. Why do people think this?

No, Jerry isn't cheap per se. I think he is reactionary. Let me explain...

Think back to the days of Don Capers. Remember when Jerry wanted to sign him to like a 10 year contract after '96? That blew up on him when the team stagnated. So then he makes a high profile hire in Seifert, and that didn't work out. So he goes with a low profile John Fox, a cheap hire, then as soon as we see some success with him, Jerry makes him one of the highest paid coaches in the league. I guarantee the same thing would happen with Rivera should we suddenly start winning. Jerry would be ready to tear up his contract and pay him the big bucks. It just seems to me like overreaction after overreaction.

I don't think Jerry wants a high profile coach like Parcells or Jimmy Johnson (guys from the past) that become the face of the franchise. Remember before Rivera was hired, Marty talked about how they weren't going to let a coach direct how the franchise was run. They wanted someone who would follow Marty and Jerry's lead. That kinda rules out a high profile type guy. So they hire someone just thankful to be given the opportunity, and pay them little until they experience success.

So you are right in that JR will pay a coach big bucks, but he only does it after there has been some demonstrated success, and then he tends to go overboard. But he probably will never hire a high profile guy that he has to pay big bucks up front.

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Not really sure that a "competent"HC even wants to work in Charlotte.... one look at the fanbase and how they call for the guillotines would scare anyone away

We actually have Nakamura sugar coaters. I don't think a head coach would fear our fan base and Panther owned local media.

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Rivera? Worst mistake? I rank a few higher..

Uh -Jeff Davidson, Armanti, Everette, Never addressing WR2 or Groomed WR1.

..Never Addressing elite Guys in the secondary.

Ignoring DT and drafting guys that bust out of the league in two years or Trading for DTs then cutting them.

Armanti Edwards.

Jake Delhomme extention.

Soon: Allowing Gross, Gamble and Steve Smith to all get well past their primes and not having replacements...Whoops..possibly now.

Not signing one of the 500 tight ends to replace the Shock.

Ignoring big name free agents that can help in areas of need then offering the same amount to average guys..

Rivera is by far not the worst mistake...what retread would be a better replacement?

I feel Rivera is the Perfect coach for the Panthers but there does need to be a mini house cleaning done.....

This is year 2 and one of those had an abbreviated off season. Talent is greater than play calling...we just need Physical, talented guys and the commitment to make one aspect thats not running back dominant(and even thats not dominant).

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Money was clearly an issue. That's why JR supposedly didn't know who Harbaugh was, even when he was one time a QB on his own team.

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Yeah, but I don't think this is a fair comparison, as the 9ers already had a very solid D and they kept the same scheme from the previous regime. I know Harbaugh is a different caliber of coach in comparison to Rivera, but you have to remember that JH had coaching experience on different levels (not to mention coming from a family tree of coaches e.g. father and brother) and he couldn't have walked into a more ideal situtation than with SF, as all the 9ers need was re-tooliing and a new direction. The Panthers are trying to build a consistent winner (after years of mediocre drafting) AND trying to assimilate a new direction/philosophy. We need to give RR more time.

I'm 50/50 on Hurney. I think he shoulders more of the blame than he should, but it's hard to ignore that last few years of drafting subpar talent and trading valuable picks for players that would be on other teams' practice squad or turned out to be complete busts e.g. Duke Robinson, Everette Brown and Jeff Otah.

49ers Defense back when Singletary was there is only as good as ours now. Only difference is they uses FAs wisely and smartly by adding Whitner and Rogers to the back field. That upgraded their defense by a bunch and help made them into what they are today. All we did was sign a poor Nakamura and keep on drafting low rounds cbs.

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"Hello, I'm Mike Smith, and I took a team that was 3-13 coming off of a huge scandal and reached the playoffs in my first season as head coach with a rookie quarterback."

"Well hello there, I'm Ron Rivera, and potato."

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ok question. What is the job of team president Danny Morrison? surely he has a say to fire Hurney or not. if so that gives me hope it will get done

figurehead and less

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Rivera isn't even close.

Spending near 40 million dollars over 2 years on a Franchise Tagged moody defensive end who didn't want to play in Carolina while hamstringing the Franchise finacially at the same time should have gotten him fired years ago.

Two wasted year.

There aren't enough Us in stuuuuuupid to describe how far Marty Hurney is over his head as a General Manager.

Until he's gone, or JR sells, this Franchise is mired in mediocrity.

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I only read the first page so sorry if this has been said but wtf are you guys talking about? Richardson hired Rivera. Not Hurney. I don't think GMs really ever have any say in coaching searches for any team. not sure though

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